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Title: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 02, 2020, 04:40:53 pm
Roadside Joey Bed locked in the 'in' position, latch moves all the way around and binds. No info in the FT files, nada in the manual I have. Looks like a bearcat to crawl back in there and I'm not sure what I'm looking for, or if I can ever see where the problems is. Note the wear on the paint; I think the PO had problems before. Any help? Thanks. M
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: wolfe10 on February 02, 2020, 04:53:04 pm
Have you opened the Joey bed on the other side to see how the latch mechanism works?
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 02, 2020, 04:57:31 pm
Have you opened the Joey bed on the other side to see how the latch mechanism works?
I've looked in there for that reason, but can't see what's what. I'll look closer front and back of the starboard Joey with a flashlight. It feels like the latch is still connected, but everything I've done to free it has not worked
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: wolfe10 on February 02, 2020, 05:10:41 pm
Ya, don't drive until you figure it out-- if not locked in place, it can slam back and forth, particularly destructive if heavily loaded.

Sorry, not first hand info on the locking mechanism-- never had a problem  with one.
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 02, 2020, 05:36:55 pm
Ya, don't drive until you figure it out-- if not locked in place, it can slam back and forth, particularly destructive if heavily loaded.

Sorry, not first hand info on the locking mechanism-- never had a problem  with one.
Ya, there are A LOT of stories about Joe escaping and doing some serious damage. Thanks, Brett.  ^.^d
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: jor on February 03, 2020, 03:32:35 pm
Mike,
Here are a couple photos showing the latch. Give you an idea of what's going on. There's a cog that drops into a notch in the rail. The control rod just pulls the cog out of the notch.

1. Green arrow points to latch cog as it moves toward the locking position. Red arrow points to the locking position.
2. Locked. Red arrow points to the cog locked into the notch in the rail.

You might be able to reach in there and pry it to pop it out of the notch. You'll figure it out.
jor
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 03, 2020, 03:38:40 pm
Mike,
Here are a few photos showing the latch. Give you an idea of what's going on. There's a cog that drops into a notch in the rail. The control rod just pulls the cog out of the notch.

1. Green arrow points to latch cog as it moves toward the locking position. Red arrow points to the locking position.
2. Locked. Red arrow points to the cog locked into the notch in the rail.
Thanks, John. Yup, Joey is locked in the 'full sleep' position and it seems like a rivet on the latch has let go( from what I can see after looking at my other one pulled all the way out). The PROBLEM, is, unlike you, I have zero clearance in there to work on it; it's going to be mostly by feel with a helper to move the latch from outside. It NEVER ends, does it? :facepalm:
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: wolfe10 on February 03, 2020, 03:48:54 pm
May be a lot easier to remove the joey bed to work on it.  As I recall, after unloading, pull it out as far as it will go, then lift up on the outboard end to clear the end piece and the whole thing comes out.  Pretty easy with two people-- one on either side. I did that when I properly mounted the base. Have inspected a few coaches where they just drilled down through the floor and through bolted it-- no plate or anything else underneath to spread the load.  Pretty quickly the bolts broke through the fiberglass, allowing water into the basement structure.

A reasonable solution is to use fairly good size (like 4"X4") aluminum plates as "washers" on the under side.  Suspect I way "over-built" it when I used a 3" hole saw from above through the basement top layer of FG, removed the insulation and epoxied in 3" marine plywood plug of the same thickness as the box beams (two 3/4" thick pieces as I recall).  Redrilled mounting hole and used an aluminum backing plate below. Ain't never going to move!
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 03, 2020, 04:04:53 pm
Only one slight problem: "Joey is jammed in bed" ! I'm going to try to reach over the rail (on my belly!) and release the catch and pull the bed out to get to it, I can barely get my hand down there!  Wonder what is entailed  on 'service' silocone spray?
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 20, 2020, 05:12:04 pm
Update:Joey is out of his bed!  By feel, got the latch released (the handle keeper of the rod had broken before and someone had used a nail instead and then bent it again). The jolt had bent the fork for lock and release, so I got that straight and put it back together with some pounding with a borrowed drift and hammer. Horrible spot to work, but I was not going to live without it working. Thanks to JOR for the pics! I figured the PO had it either slid out/in too fast or did not treat the opening and closing with kid gloves rather than 'Cowboying' it!
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: wolfe10 on February 20, 2020, 05:16:54 pm
With a person on each side and, lifting at the outer end, the Joey bed easily comes out for repair.
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 20, 2020, 05:50:13 pm
With a person on each side and, lifting at the outer end, the Joey bed easily comes out for repair.
I was about to get some help and try that, but (A) no help around and (B) was worried I would not be able to get it back in if I could not fix it Not to hi-jack my own thread, but, What is this, Brett?
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on February 20, 2020, 06:15:38 pm
My guess:  A medieval torture device?  (Stick some part of body in slot and slowly rotate the disk)
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 20, 2020, 06:21:14 pm
My guess:  A medieval torture device?  (Stick some part of body in slot and slowly rotate the disk)
Ha! Brett is too nice a guy! I think it fits under the gen set, but no clue how the 'torture device' works.  :giggle:
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on February 20, 2020, 06:40:27 pm
The Joey bed in my coach is locked on both sides of the coach.
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 20, 2020, 07:43:39 pm
The Joey bed in my coach is locked on both sides of the coach.
I doubt it, on the left side of mine, there is a 'stop' but no locker.  ^.^d
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on February 21, 2020, 05:28:06 am
No need to doubt. Mine locks on both sides and can slide out of either side.
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 21, 2020, 09:13:39 am
No need to doubt. Mine locks on both sides and can slide out of either side.
Wow!  Different model, I guess. I double checked mine after your comment and just found a stop. Our's is one-way.  ^.^d
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Dave Dunington on February 23, 2020, 11:14:55 am
Some Joey beds  slide both ways , and have two latches,  one of my Joey beds slides one way, and has a single latch.  I have two Joey beds in my U320 and that's how they work.
Safe Travels,
Dave
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 23, 2020, 11:58:46 am
I would be lost without Joey...... b^.^d
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: DavidS on February 23, 2020, 12:10:46 pm
I would be lost without Joey...... b^.^d

Seems to be the right height for a retired guy.. :))

Looks like you have the basics and then some...not sure how well the seat rolls in the dirt but great setup!!
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 23, 2020, 05:35:34 pm
Seems to be the right height for a retired guy.. :))  Looks like you have the basics and then some...
Here's the site we just moved into, plan to keep it as a home base, so built a little barrier to ward off the Javelinas and give us some privacy: refinished the tables and use them as a work station. The slab is perfect with the stool and Joey: no getting up to find the right tool!  ^.^d
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Chris m lang on February 23, 2020, 10:37:25 pm
Home sweet home!!!!
You could set up a trap. I hear they taste like pork!
Chris
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: wolfe10 on February 24, 2020, 09:11:32 am
Javelinas are a LONG way from pork!
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 24, 2020, 10:20:51 am
Javelinas are a LONG way from pork!
Ja Ja , 'Javies' have a diet that is not conducive to culinary excellence!  :))
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Chris m lang on February 24, 2020, 07:08:11 pm
What do they taste like—-inquiring minds
Chris
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Chris m lang on February 24, 2020, 07:10:52 pm
What do they taste like—-inquiring minds
I've had coon and contrary to popular belief they do not wash their food before eating it!!
BTW it was good and it don't taste like chicken!
Chris
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on February 25, 2020, 09:07:40 pm
Javelina Stew Recipe - Stewed Javelina Recipe | Hank Shaw (https://honest-food.net/javelina-stew-recipe/)
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Olde English on February 25, 2020, 09:46:10 pm
It has been my experience, how good or bad any food tastes in inextricably linked to ones level of hunger.
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Chris m lang on February 25, 2020, 10:07:03 pm
It has been my experience, how good or bad any food tastes in inextricably linked to ones level of hunger.
X2.  We were raised on the farm if it was set on table then you ate it, and if you had been working hard you were hungry
Chris
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: DavidS on February 26, 2020, 09:48:30 am
X2.  We were raised on the farm if it was set on table then you ate it, and if you had been working hard you were hungry
Chris
Not a farm but my house was close with 1 brother and 2 sisters my grandpa stepdad and mom.. Food went fast.. If I didnt like the food my mom would make me sit until everyone was done and then some... Now I love food lol..

Somethings we are taught when you really stick.. Finish your plate... Now we all over eat because of it. Hmmm Moms
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 26, 2020, 09:49:10 am
Javelina Stew Recipe - Stewed Javelina Recipe | Hank Shaw (https://honest-food.net/javelina-stew-recipe/)
THAT is quite the recipe! Have not heard of anyone down here that's cooked it, but with all the additives, one could use a old shoe and it would taste great.  ^.^d    Desert Lily Or Ajo Lily (http://www.gardenanswers.com/bulb-plants/desert-lily-or-ajo-lily/)
Title: Re: JOEY sleeping in!
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on February 26, 2020, 09:51:56 am
Just saw this: looks like the ultimate JOEY BED! !