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Title: New fresh water pump
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on March 12, 2020, 06:41:15 am
I want to replace my fresh water pump.
I don't have an accumulator tank and I don't want to blow my plumbing out with too much pressure.
Any new tech or good old tech pumps to recommend?
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on March 12, 2020, 08:23:21 am
Lon,

I installed a Shurflo 4008 four years ago, and have been very happy with the performance.  I retained the accumulator tank on our coach (personal preference), but it is not required with this pump.  I also recommend the silencing kit and the inlet "strainer" to go with the pump.

Shop around (online) for the best price.

https://www.pentair.com/content/dam/extranet/flow/manuals/shurflo/rv/pds-4008-101-X65.pdf

Amazon.com: Shurflo Revolution Standard 12v Automatic Demand Pump Classic RV... (https://www.amazon.com/Shurflo-Revolution-Standard-Automatic-4008-101-E65/dp/B004MTWEZY/ref=pd_di_sccai_5/134-1788041-4792223?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004MTWEZY&pd_rd_r=286fa282-d7f5-42f5-ac50-08d8f236da08&pd_rd_w=89tk7&pd_rd_wg=3UIJc&pf_rd_p=e532f109-986a-4c2d-85fc-16555146f6b4&pf_rd_r=CYXQJ44166SXGKA5VZWJ&psc=1&refRID=CYXQJ44166SXGKA5VZWJ)

Amazon.com: SHURFLO 94-591-01 Pump Silencing Kit: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WN5F96/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

Amazon.com: SHURFLO (255-313) 1/2" Twist-On Pipe Strainer: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V2W0GE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on March 12, 2020, 07:52:17 pm
The pump I want to replace is a Shurflo 4048.
I don't see anything that's a newer design or would work better for my application, I might as well make it simple and replace with the same pump.
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Caflashbob on March 12, 2020, 08:07:13 pm
Mine works great with an accumulator
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: jor on March 13, 2020, 10:26:29 am
I have the 4048. I removed the accumulator when I installed it as the documentation indicates it shouldn't be used with an accumulator. Nevertheless, I installed an accumulator again. It works fine either way.
jor
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on March 13, 2020, 06:32:25 pm
With all the advances in electric motors and batteries I'm surprised that nothing new has been introduced into the  market.
I see HUGE advances in battery powered power tools. More power,less energy used, smaller packages. My Milwaukee 18v Fuel tools are beasts.
I know the motor in my water pump is not run off a battery but I'm sure technology in 12v motors and pump design and control of there production must have advanced since these pumps were first introduced years ago.
That "new" model will most likely be introduced the day AFTER I buy my replacement.
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Jack Lewis on March 13, 2020, 07:21:15 pm
Like this one, I've used for a year.  I especially like the increased flow and pressure over replaced pump. Also the run dry and self priming features are worthwhile.  Amazon gives all the features and specs in this listing.

Also it is shipped and sold by Amazon, I've had good service buying their products, and 74% 5 star rated, 16% 4 star, pretty good for an electrical rv item primarily installed by users.

Shurflo 4048153E75 Electric Water Pump Amazon.com: Shurflo 4048153E75 Electric Water Pump: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RYMT7O/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_-sbBEb3NJAK7C)
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on March 13, 2020, 08:11:08 pm
Like this one, I've used for a year.  I especially like the increased flow and pressure over replaced pump. Also the run dry and self priming features are worthwhile.  Amazon gives all the features and specs in this listing.

Also it is shipped and sold by Amazon, I've had good service buying their products, and 74% 5 star rated, 16% 4 star, pretty good for an electrical rv item primarily installed by users.

Shurflo 4048153E75 Electric Water Pump Amazon.com: Shurflo 4048153E75 Electric Water Pump: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RYMT7O/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_-sbBEb3NJAK7C)

Thats the same pump I'm now looking to replace with something of a more current design. Mine dates back to 2009.
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Twig on March 13, 2020, 08:44:32 pm
You're doing the right thing.
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: dans96u295ft on March 13, 2020, 10:37:01 pm
Shurflo
 has always been a great product
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Jack Lewis on March 14, 2020, 12:28:16 am
Thats the same pump I'm now looking to replace with something of a more current design. Mine dates back to 2009.

It appears this pump first came out in 2012.  Can you post a picture of the pump label which will show your model number and date manufacturered?

This is the second rv I've used this model pump in, the first in 2014, and this one two years ago in 2018. I have never been let down.  I originally bought it because it was recommended to me by our parts manager who continued carrying the pump since our shop foreman insisted it was the best one available.  The shop foreman liked its reliability, adjustability, and performance. The parts manager liked it because he did not get returns.

When you find a better pump that you buy, measure, and use, please post what you ended up with and why it is an improvement.  I like new technology too, I just haven't seen it yet over this proven excellent pump.  It seems like yours not failing in eleven years is a testimonial.
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: kenhat on March 14, 2020, 01:50:51 am
You might be able to rebuild your 4048 pump. I just replaced the drive assembly on mine. About 5 years old. Daily use.

Amazon.com: SHURFLO 94-801-02 Pump Drive Assembly Kit: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017PKD5AO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

Pull the head off the pump by removing the 8 screws on the front. Plug the motor in to 12v if it runs smooth it's an issue with the pump head.  The assembly I replaced is the most likely place to fail. It has a bearing that causes the oscillation that drives the pump. Fixed for less than $30. YMMV

If motor dead new pump. :(

see ya
ken

 
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on March 14, 2020, 05:36:57 am
It appears this pump first came out in 2012.  Can you post a picture of the pump label which will show your model number and date manufacturered?

This is the second rv I've used this model pump in, the first in 2014, and this one two years ago in 2018. I have never been let down.  I originally bought it because it was recommended to me by our parts manager who continued carrying the pump since our shop foreman insisted it was the best one available.  The shop foreman liked its reliability, adjustability, and performance. The parts manager liked it because he did not get returns.

When you find a better pump that you buy, measure, and use, please post what you ended up with and why it is an improvement.  I like new technology too, I just haven't seen it yet over this proven excellent pump.  It seems like yours not failing in eleven years is a testimonial.

You are correct, a second look at the label on the pump states  2/9/12
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on March 14, 2020, 05:42:11 am
You might be able to rebuild your 4048 pump. I just replaced the drive assembly on mine. About 5 years old. Daily use.

Amazon.com: SHURFLO 94-801-02 Pump Drive Assembly Kit: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017PKD5AO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

Pull the head off the pump by removing the 8 screws on the front. Plug the motor in to 12v if it runs smooth it's an issue with the pump head.  The assembly I replaced is the most likely place to fail. It has a bearing that causes the oscillation that drives the pump. Fixed for less than $30. YMMV

If motor dead new pump. :(

see ya
ken

The pump did not really fail, the plastic end cracked ( I believe from freezing this fall), the internals still work fine.
I will probably still buy a new one and then re-build this one for a spare if the parts cost is is not excessive.
Title: Re: New fresh water pump
Post by: Jack Lewis on March 14, 2020, 07:25:20 am
Great that ken brought up the replacement parts that are easily available on Amazon. See attached pdf of manual for 4048, with list and diagram of replacement parts, to make sure you only order what is needed. That is much less than buying a new pump.

Lon, I kept my old pump, as there was nothing wrong with it, I just wanted a pump with increased flow.  I thought I might use it for another project. Now two years later, it is off to Craigslist with it for 1/2 the price of a new one. New it was a much less expensive Shure Flow pump than the 4048-153-E75.

Usual cracked part from freezing
Amazon.com: SHURFLO 94-801-01 Upper Housing Kit: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017PKCYFQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_.TsBEb4S6551A)

SHURFLO 94-801-01 94-801-00 Model 4048 Repair Parts-Complete Upper Housing Amazon.com: SHURFLO 94-801-01 94-801-00 Model 4048 Repair Parts-Complete... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XKZ5RMI/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_AZlBEb1V4ADPX)

Shurflo 4048153E75 Electric Water Pump Amazon.com: Shurflo 4048153E75 Electric Water Pump: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RYMT7O/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_YRlBEbJAY1XF2)