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Title: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: dans96u295ft on April 01, 2020, 03:26:53 pm
Ok. Filled with water and now I want to add my purifier to the tank and drive around and dump.  I ran a short hose to the intake port but it won't take any fluid. I'm doing something wrong? I know it has a back flow valve and only opens under pressure. What is the work around.
Thank you
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: wolfe10 on April 01, 2020, 03:34:25 pm
If your fill valve is open, pressure water pump off it should fill the tank. Period.

If fall valve is open and pureness water pump is on, the pump will run continuously as it "recirculates" water from and back to the tank.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: dans96u295ft on April 01, 2020, 03:39:37 pm
Ok. I'll try again. Thanks.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: bdale on April 01, 2020, 03:45:28 pm
If you're trying to use your short piece of hose to gravity feed it past the backflow preventer , it may not work.  If you can pour your fluid into the empty hose, then use the water pressure of your faucet connection to push it past the backflow preventer.  In other words, pre-load the hose before filling.  If you have an inline sediment filter where you can add the purifier, even better.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: wolfe10 on April 01, 2020, 03:49:05 pm
If you're trying to use your short piece of hose to gravity feed it past the backflow preventer , it may not work.  If you can pour your fluid into the empty hose, then use the water pressure of your faucet connection to push it past the backflow preventer.  In other words, pre-load the hose before filling.  If you have an inline sediment filter where you can add the purifier, even better.

Correct-- I did not understand that you were applying zero PSI to the fill hose.  Even if your system is depressurized by opening a faucet until all pressure is off, there will still  be some pressure based on level of water in the tank AND that you need enough PSI to open the check/one-way valve.


So, yes, connect another hose from shore water to the short piece of hose and it will "push" water to the tank.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: dans96u295ft on April 01, 2020, 03:55:39 pm
Ok. I need to put in a gallon, Any ideas. Thought maybe in a bucket and then hook a drill pump up and that would add some pressure?
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: bdale on April 01, 2020, 04:09:05 pm
My thought is that a gallon of anything sounds like a lot when a 1/4 cup of bleach will treat the entire tank.  If you really need that much of something, then your drill pump will probably work.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: wolfe10 on April 01, 2020, 04:25:18 pm
Put whatever amount (agree a gallon of bleach is WAY too much) in your regular hose, hook up to shore power and turn it on to fill the tank all the way.

Turn off the hose, close the fill valve and turn on pressure water pump.  Open each faucet (hot and cold) until you smell bleach, then turn it off.  Hot takes longer as you will have to "chlorinate" the water heater contents.

Let it sit for a couple of hours, then drain and flush with fresh water.

VERY easy.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: Jack Lewis on April 01, 2020, 06:13:12 pm
The 2nd video is a little dated, however it is still one of the better ones out there.  According to this, and other sources, 1/4 cup for 15 gallons. So...2 cups of bleach for 100 gallons should be fine.

"Mix one cup of bleach to four gallons of water for a 40 gallon tank, one and a half cups of bleach to six gallons of water for a 60 gallon tank, and two cups of bleach to eight gallons of water for a 100 gallon tank."

Allways dilute bleach as video shows before pouring in tank.  I use the same hose from my winterizing hose kit that I added, to add the diluted bleach.

Simple 2 minute video.
https://youtu.be/E0CsGjobAL0

Dated, but more detailed 8 minute video.
https://youtu.be/jEepug8N-aE
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: Texhub on April 01, 2020, 06:30:57 pm
Safety Note

Use plain bleach. 

Do not us any flavoured bleach.


I use 1 gal of pure bleach per 3000 gal tank. This is above ground potable water storage tank.

Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: dans96u295ft on April 01, 2020, 08:41:00 pm
I bought the Taste Pure water treatment. I've always used bleach but a friend said this is his favorite who is a chemist. Takes a gallon for 100 gallons. 1st treatment I'm mixing a bit more to sanitize whatever may be left from winter and the previous owner. This stuff is so powerful, they want you to flush the tank twice. I'll go ahead and use the water filter canister to add the stuff
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on April 01, 2020, 08:51:17 pm
I use a particulate filter right at the source all the time.
Fresh Water Fill Valve (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=25311.msg200075#msg200075)
Easy place to add disinfectant, cleans the hose and all the way into the tank.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: dans96u295ft on April 05, 2020, 07:19:44 pm
Taste pure seems to have worked great. I did use the outside filter housing to get a gallon into it. Drove around, flushed, filled, drove around again and ran all faucets 10 minutes, flushed and filled.  Walla. clean, smells good and hopefully sanitized.
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: Cape Bretoner on April 05, 2020, 08:01:54 pm
If your fill valve is open, pressure water pump off it should fill the tank. Period.

If fall valve is open and pureness water pump is on, the pump will run continuously as it "recirculates" water from and back to the tank.
Can you explain the fall valves to me every time I try to winterize my rv  the water pump continuously run But when I use the pump to take water from the holding tank it works properly only noticed this pump running when I winterize it I have two bypass valves that I use on top of the hot and cold manifold there is a ball shut off valve that I can't see but I can feel it and know it there in front of the pump that I've never tried to use would this be the fall valve that your talking about I have a tank drain valve a cold & hot drain valve I can see and get at easy but the other valve hiding at the other end of pump what is it for? It's not a drain  plus the hot water tank  is filling up I use a good 5 gallon to winterize this does not seem right the hot water tank should not get any antifreeze  at all what could be causing this

Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: dans96u295ft on April 05, 2020, 08:17:01 pm
Cape, you bought yours a month after I bought mine. Been working on her all winter. Since mine is a 1996 u295 I have a different setup. These forum boys will get you straight. Did yours come with the manuals? That helped me as well
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: Cape Bretoner on April 05, 2020, 08:43:46 pm
Cape, you bought yours a month after I bought mine. Been working on her all winter. Since mine is a 1996 u295 I have a different setup. These forum boys will get you straight. Did yours come with the manuals? That helped me as well
yes it does and I guess I should do some reading and probably figure it out for myself laugh out load it's that I read about that fall valve from Brent  on reply #1 and it sounds like my problem I had all the pipes apart when I did the bulkhead head and figure we plumbed it wrong it was to cold up here in Canada to check it out the rig is out side don't have building to play with it only have the problem with the pump continue to run when I winterized it didn't seem right but forgot about it till Brent talked about it
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: rbark on April 05, 2020, 09:26:08 pm
Do you mean fill valve?
Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: Cape Bretoner on April 06, 2020, 07:10:09 am
Brent call it a fall valve I have a fill valve in the bathroom cabinet this is a valve a ball valve right at the pump I have 4 ball valve in the wet bay 1 to drain fresh water tank 2 cold water lines 3 hot water line 4 don't know what  it does.    Then I have two bypass valve on top of my water manifold to by pass hot water tank . What is this shut of valve at the pump for the way pump is installed in wet I can't see it just feel it would like to show you pictures of wet bay but I can't figure out how to put pictures on this site I think he meant fill valve but I have a fourth valve what is it for. What is the proper way to winterized because my water pump continuesly when winterizing will not shut off. But works perfectly when just using water out of holding tank.


Title: Re: Adding bleach or water purifier to fresh tank
Post by: Chris m lang on April 06, 2020, 07:28:41 am
Cape that was a typo it is a FILL valve-- it is a ball valve that is opened to fill your fresh water tank
Chris