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Title: RV fridge
Post by: bbeane on April 30, 2020, 12:56:37 am
Without opening up a can of worms on what's better RV or res fridge. I have a JC refrigeration cooling unit gas electric.  As luck would of have it we be stuck in Yuma till around May 15th 105 today.but we are under cover. The question is we are able to keep the fridge at 40-42 freezer at -10 with 2 fans running in the back of fridge for the evaporator. Is that about as good as it gets give the ambient temps?
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Caflashbob on April 30, 2020, 01:04:11 am
Cannot answer your question directly but if possible I would point a fan at the refers exterior door in the body.  More airflow over the coils?  Set on a ladder?  Plugged in to 110 volt. 
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: bbeane on April 30, 2020, 01:09:43 am
These are 12v fans installed with tstat in the back of the fridge for the condenser at the top of the fridge
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Caflashbob on April 30, 2020, 01:39:53 am
I would add the additional at the bottom through the door.  Can't hurt.  Other than that the refer seems to be over its capacity?
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: bbeane on April 30, 2020, 01:51:07 am
No doubt 100+ degrees is a bit over the design point of RV fridges.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Horace B. Cupp on April 30, 2020, 06:47:30 am
Bruce, yes.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: wolfe10 on April 30, 2020, 08:52:06 am
I would add the additional at the bottom through the door.  Can't hurt.  Other than that the refer seems to be over its capacity?

Actually it COULD hurt.  You need laminar flow over the condenser, not turbulent air. Fans above the condenser sucking air through the condenser and up through the roof vent gives best refrigerator performance.

Also, verify that there is the correct (narrow) gap between the back of the refrigerator and side of coach-- your refrigerator owners manual gives these specs. Too large a gap allows more turbulence and allows air to go around instead of through the condenser.

Clearly, any way to shade that side of the coach is a big help to refrigerator performance.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 30, 2020, 09:39:49 am
Bruce, do you have any fans on the fins inside the refrigerator?  They not only keep the fins from frosting up in humid conditions (not Yuma) but they circulate the air and keep the temperature inside a bit lower.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 30, 2020, 10:01:43 am
Or one of these;

Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on April 30, 2020, 10:10:01 am
I would avoid introducing any plastic into the fridge compartment in case of a fire. If you have made the compartment fire resistive, there is nothing to burn once the hydrogen has burned off in a short time. Don't want to give the fire any fuel to keep going. Naturally, I'm talking about a propane RV fridge.

Pierce
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 30, 2020, 10:44:23 am
That blue plastic fan actually goes inside the refrigerator.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Old Toolmaker on April 30, 2020, 01:03:47 pm
I have a JC refrigeration cooling unit gas electric.  As luck would of have it we be stuck in Yuma till around May 15th 105 today.but we are under cover. The question is we are able to keep the fridge at 40-42 freezer at -10 with 2 fans running in the back of fridge for the evaporator. Is that about as good as it gets give the ambient temps?

I installed the JC Refrigeration cooling unit in our fridge and I think it has a little more capacity for moving heat than what came from Dometic.

Either way you're doing well with those figures.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 30, 2020, 01:15:45 pm
Ammonia Refrigerator Hot Weather Mod (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=38090.msg368927#msg368927)
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Caflashbob on April 30, 2020, 01:46:09 pm
Seems the fan pushing the air in then up does work.  A redneck ghetto cure would be to put a tiny window air on a support and blow cold air into the refers grille? 
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on April 30, 2020, 01:51:33 pm
That blue plastic fan actually goes inside the refrigerator.
Sounds good. The twin fans at the top of the fridge seem to work well too.

Brett's idea about avoiding the sun on the fridge side of the coach in the hottest time of day seems good. Nice to have white outside of the coach by the fridge too.

Pierce
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Caflashbob on April 30, 2020, 05:08:31 pm
Is your coach painted?
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: bbeane on April 30, 2020, 05:21:51 pm
Nope white gelcoat. Put another small blower in the back 39 in the fridge -10 in the freezer. I think about as good as it gets when it's 105
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Doug W. on April 30, 2020, 05:25:25 pm
Nope white gelcoat. Put another small blower in the back 39 in the fridge -10 in the freezer. I think about as good as it gets when it's 105

 I'd say it's doing pretty good given absorption refrigerators are only good for 50 to 60 degrees below ambient.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: bbeane on April 30, 2020, 06:43:31 pm
I'd say it's doing pretty good given absorption refrigerators are only good for 50 to 60 degrees below ambient.
Thanks, I think it's ok as well. As soon as I get the trans shifter control back we be heading for cooler weather.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 30, 2020, 06:48:09 pm
If I was closer Bruce I'd stop by for an ice cold beer.
Where y'all headed, New Hampsha?
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: bbeane on April 30, 2020, 08:08:41 pm
Idaho
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Dub on April 30, 2020, 09:06:14 pm
When it gets past 105 and since mechanically  refer is doing its best, may put a bowl of ice inside to help it a bit. Won't need to in Idaho but there will be days in Yuma.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 30, 2020, 09:38:49 pm

Cool!
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Dakota Slim on May 01, 2020, 10:56:52 am
If you keep the inside of your coach cool I don't think you'll have a problem. Just keep the door closed as much as possible and get in and out quick when you put something in or take it out. Don't put a case of warm soda or water in there and expect it to cool down any time soon. 
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: kenhat on May 01, 2020, 02:54:58 pm
With those kinds of temps I don't think you can do much better than low 40º. I won't worry about it.

One thing I learned about absorption it takes a while to catch up once it does get warm. I was re-fanning the absorption fins inside the fridge the other day and had the door open about 15 minutes. Temp went up 10º. Took over 24 hours to get back to normal.

As Mr. Slim says open as little as possible in those temps. Move your beer to an ice cooler! :)

see ya
ken
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Caflashbob on May 01, 2020, 02:59:43 pm
We keep a lot of beverages in the chest refer/freezer in the lower bay.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: bbeane on May 02, 2020, 12:43:13 am
Cold beverage is good beverage 🍺
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Dakota Slim on May 03, 2020, 07:29:17 pm
I like having a wireless indoor/outdoor thermometer sensor in the refrigerator so I can monitor the temperature without opening the door. I also keep a thermometer in the freezer.
My Norcold has an automatic defrost cycle to clear the inside refrigerator fins of ice and I think it does so every 43 hours. In very hot weather, that cycle will allow the refrigerator temperature to go over 45 degrees so if I see the temperature go over 42 I turn the refrigerator off for 30 seconds and then turn it back on. That apparently resets the defrost timer. 
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Moby on May 03, 2020, 08:12:34 pm
I have to measure my top vent stack to see if this will fit yet, but wondering if anybody has used one of these?
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Pamela & Mike on May 03, 2020, 08:15:43 pm
, but wondering if anybody has used one of these?

All the time.
2 of the 140 mm fit our roof stack/vent.

Mike
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Moby on May 03, 2020, 08:20:12 pm
All the time.
2 of the 140 mm fit our roof stack/vent.

Mike

 Should have added, with effect in helping it cool.
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Pamela & Mike on May 03, 2020, 08:22:45 pm
Have had these in 3 different coaches and for me they help in hot weather.

Mike
Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Dakota Slim on May 04, 2020, 07:16:37 am
I have to measure my top vent stack to see if this will fit yet, but wondering if anybody has used one of these?

I use 4 of these fans I bought on ebay, held together with wire ties, on the lower end as described by Barry and Cindy here: Refrigerator condenser fan for hot weather (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=25616.msg203039#msg203039)

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Title: Re: RV fridge
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 04, 2020, 01:02:54 pm
We have them and on the auto setting they are cycling on and off when it's warm outside.  I just haven't been in the 105 degree part of the country yet to test them yet.    Thanks to the pandemic for that.