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Title: VMS System
Post by: MarkC on June 20, 2020, 03:47:07 pm
I am sure that for those of you who have the VMS monitoring system, this is not news.  But I just had to voice how awesome the system is. I got the system from Roger on here a several weeks ago. I had made a couple of local trips, but not enough to really test the system.  Finally, I made a longer trip (1200 miles) and am in awe of how accurate and how much information it provides.  From being able to watch the Retarder temps through the Colorado mountains, to monitoring the transmission, coolant, etc. temps was fantastic. 
I know I am still learning on how to work the trip information, but just had to praise how good the system is.  Special Thanks to Roger for walking me through a couple of install questions and his support.

If you do not have this VMS system, make sure to put it on your to do list. You won't be sorry.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: craneman on June 20, 2020, 03:51:33 pm
Learning how to use the trip gauge and being able to see the screen with polarized sunglasses is my nemesis. Other than that is is just as you say great and very helpful.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Johnstons on June 20, 2020, 04:02:05 pm
Glad to see how much you appreciate it.  With the fuel remaining I usually get within a few gallons how much diesel I will need. 

You will like the trip feature because the gallons remaining to finish the trip saves doing it in my head.  Coming 1200 miles back from Virginia the trip feature and Waze were within a couple of miles of each other when we got home so that's pretty accurate if you enter the right miles for the trip.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Caflashbob on June 20, 2020, 05:18:52 pm
Checking the mpg from the engine to the VPMS matches exactly the amount of fuel needed.  Without the aquahot use.

Gen at .44 gph.  Subtracting the motor and gen hours matches what's left being the aquahot if the diesel burner was being used.

The RMPG showed me the large hp draw from the over done cooling fans.  RMPG jumped 2 mpg on flat roads for a while.  Fan finally went down in speed long enough to raise the mpg.

Great tool
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on June 20, 2020, 06:44:39 pm
Mark, Glad it is working for you.  It just gets better.

Chuck, I have had some folks experience difficulty with polarized sunglasses as well. It really depends on the screen.  My iPad and Samsung tablets don't seem to have an issue with polarized glasses but the ASUS Transformers do. Try turning the screen (tablet) 90° to portrait mode.  It seems to work for most folks.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: oldguy on June 20, 2020, 07:09:16 pm
I can't see my screen with my sunglasses on either.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on June 22, 2020, 09:01:51 am
Roger what cable do I need to connect with a USB C port on my Samsung tablet?
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on June 22, 2020, 09:54:26 am
VMSpc does not run on android tablets or on iPads. It runs on a Windows PC, laptop or tablet. If you have an android tablet (or iPad) you can use it as a wireless remote display.  It works well. I have used Samsung 7 and 8" tablets and several different iPad versions. Doing this takes a step up in the technobabble stuff.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on June 22, 2020, 07:18:24 pm
Thanks Roger. Found the software you can use to do it. Just have to set it up.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Tom Lang on June 22, 2020, 09:31:04 pm
I've beed using VmsPC for over 10 years, a multitude of computers and a multitude of home-grown layouts.  Here's my latest.  It is running on a Dell Venue tablet, sometimes with keyboard attached, sometimes not.  The keyboard covers the defroster vents.  I originally ran in portrait mode, but switched to landscape because the display is not readable in portrait mode with polarized sunglasses.

Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: hdff on June 22, 2020, 09:43:53 pm
I love mine and Roger has great customer service! My new to me coach has a silver leaf glass dash and I use Rogers unit in conjunction with it to get more info....  I had bought mine from Roger for my old coach and works great on the new one




Keith
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: AC7880 on June 22, 2020, 11:30:04 pm
How do you switch portrait to landscape and vice versa?  Can't view it on a ASUS with polarized sunglasses as is.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Tom Lang on June 22, 2020, 11:56:26 pm
Mine is a tablet, so turning the device on it's side switches mode. The vms layout then needs to be modified to fit, tiles rearranged and resized.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: craneman on June 23, 2020, 12:50:03 am
How do you switch portrait to landscape and vice versa?  Can't view it on a ASUS with polarized sunglasses as is.
I need the same information.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Tom Lang on June 23, 2020, 08:11:45 am
This might help

How to Rotate Screen in Windows 10 | Laptop Mag (https://www.laptopmag.com/amp/articles/fix-sideways-screen-computer)

It involves rotating the entire computer 90°. Does yours work as a tablet, with touch screen and with keyboard flipped behind the screen or removed?  My Dell has a removable keyboard.
Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: AC7880 on July 11, 2020, 10:58:19 pm
To follow up on the VMSpc display on a ASUS laptop using polarized sunglasses:
For normal everyday wear I use high end polarized Maui Jim sunglasses with readers built in. Basically bifocals, with distance vision uncorrected. Using these I cannot see the ASUS display at all.

I ordered 3 different pairs of non polarized sunglasses (so my wife and I both have options),  The ones I ordered  have UV protection (UVA/UVB protection for the eyes), but no polarization.  All 3 pairs allow the screen to be easily viewed.

I ordered on line from here: Sunglasses Under  | Sunglass Warehouse® (https://www.sunglasswarehouse.com/)  They have some information on widths so you can attempt to get a good  fit.

The most comfortable to me are these: Silver Mirror Rimless Aviator Sunglasses | Shop Aviators | Sunglass Warehouse® (https://www.sunglasswarehouse.com/morant-rimless-aviator-sunglassess.html?on=Silver%2BFrame%2Bwith%2BSilver%2BMirrored%2BLenses&showid=14489) They feel the widest to me as to fit.  The website calls them narrow, but to me medium or wide and very comfortable.  But they are pretty dark and I do not like the mirrored effect as I wear them.  These will work for me in the brightest conditions.  $12

Medium fit width to me are these: Men's Square Browline Sporty Shape Sunglasses | Fast S&H | Sunglass Warehouse® (https://www.sunglasswarehouse.com/andrew-square-sporty-shape.html?on=Black%2BFrame%2Bwith%2BSmoke%2BLenses&showid=16676)  The website calls them wide, more average or medium to me.
 Excellent visual acuity, my wife likes these best.  They are not comfortable to me due to scar tissue I have high on my nose, and the connection to the nose pieces sits on the scar tissue.  These would be my favorite of the 3 without that issue.  $15

Narrowest fit according to website and feel, lighter tint, but excellent acuity are these: Vitality IRONMAN Triathlon Sporty Protective Sunglasses | Sunglass Warehouse® (https://www.sunglasswarehouse.com/sporty-wrap-shape-ironman-triathlon.html?on=Matte%2BBlack%2BFrame%2Bwith%2BBlue%2BRevo%2BMirrored%2BLenses&showid=16726)
These are the ones I will wear most often while driving the coach due to excellent acuity in light to medium sun and glare. However, look at the pictures on the website and be aware the temples are wrap around and feel tight on the back of the head around the ear area. $35

Recap: Non polarized sunglasses while driving the coach to see the VMSpc on a ASUS laptop is the way to go.




Title: Re: VMS System
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on July 12, 2020, 12:06:02 am
Try later tablets/phones or turn the device 90 degrees. I fly/navigate aircraft with a Samsung Tab S2 in portrait mode and don't have a problem. Same with the engine analyzer. My iPad does not have GPS so have not tried it but I've heard Apple has fixed that problem. Nice to have readers on the bottom with less darkening.

So, Samsung S-AMOLED uses LEDs in linear polarization and you should be able to read it in either position. Others use LCDs with circular polarization so you may not be able to read them.

Polarized sunglasses give much great contrast outside and let birds or aircraft stand out much better and faster than conventional sunglasses, especially whites. Nothing quite like watching clouds with a pair of polarlized glasses.

Pierce