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Title: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: dans96u295ft on June 24, 2020, 09:15:03 am
When I replaced my solenoids under the isolator, these are mounted on the same panel. Anyone know what they do?
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on June 24, 2020, 10:26:16 am
The best place to find answers to questions like this is the appropriate wiring diagram (B-2126 Automotive Wiring).  If you do not have that wiring diagram for your coach, you are working at a distinct disadvantage.  Some, but not all, diagrams are available in the Forum library.  The one linked below may be correct for your coach.  You can see the two relays located adjacent to the battery isolator.  Check the routing and the wire number labels on the actual wires on your coach, to see if they correspond to the diagram.  If they do, then you have your answer.

https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=3297
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: Jack Lewis on June 24, 2020, 11:07:01 am
  The one linked below may be correct for your coach.
https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=3297

I am not sure if this one is any different, has different scale date of '96 compared to '02.  Drawing date is the same, anyone know what scale date means?

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Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: master2301 on June 24, 2020, 11:28:18 am
I looks like they dated it in '02 when they removed the U280 reference to drawing. Scale date is insignificant since the "NTS" did not change.
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on June 24, 2020, 11:44:07 am
I am not sure if this one is any different, has different scale date of '96 compared to '02.  Drawing date is the same, anyone know what scale date means?
Jack,

Yes your drawing is very different from the one I linked.  Yours is almost identical to the B-2126 I have for our '93 U280.  The "scale" date on mine is 11/10/92 and it supposedly only applies to U280 and U300.

I don't know what the dates on those drawings really mean.  I think the "CN" number is supposed to relate to the last build number covered by that drawing.  However, the CN number on my drawing is 4312 and yet I was told (in person) by James Triana that it was correct up through build 4389.  (Our coach is build 4359).  So who knows?

I am sure our library is missing some schematics.  There may be another one that slots between the one you linked and the one I linked.

I always encourage our members to check through the documents available in our library.  If you notice something missing and have a copy that could be uploaded, PLEASE take the time to add to our collection.
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: master2301 on June 24, 2020, 11:50:27 am
I don't know what the dates on those drawings really mean.  I think the "CN" number is supposed to relate to the last build number covered by that drawing.  However, the CN number on my drawing is 4312 and yet I was told (in person) by James Triana that it was correct for our coach (build 4359).  So who knows?

The CN is probably abbreviated Control Number...?

Chuck, do you think it's possible that 4312 drawing was used on yours because it was simply the same and Build 4312 was the initial drawing usage?
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on June 24, 2020, 12:03:37 pm
Larry,

I don't feel like 4312 could be the beginning build number for that drawing, because that would mean it was only good for a very small number of coaches.  4389-4312=77 coaches.  Seems like it being the end build number would make more sense.

They obviously tried to update the schematics periodically as required.  Since running production changes were being made all the time, it may be that they would publish a new "revised" drawing with a certain build number printed on it, and then discover later on that it actually was still good for coaches being built after that date.

As I said...mystery to me.
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: dans96u295ft on June 24, 2020, 12:35:12 pm
I'll look. I do have the B-2126 as FT sent it to me free. I got it when having dash light problems
Thanks
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: jor on June 24, 2020, 01:33:10 pm
I believe one is for the A/C compressor and the other is for the condensor fan.
jor

Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: dans96u295ft on June 24, 2020, 01:52:13 pm
Thanks Jor. That's them. So both of them are AC parts which doesn't blow cold anyway. The previous owner spent over $3000 at 2 different shops and never did blow cold so I'll worry about it when everything else has bees fixed or updated.
Thank you
Title: Re: What are these 2 relays?
Post by: Jack Lewis on June 24, 2020, 05:42:45 pm
I am not sure if this one is any different, has different scale date of '96 compared to '02.

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I received this pdf from Brad at Foretravel just a couple of weeks ago.  I just noticed someone wrote on the schematic "thru 5060", my 1997 FT coach number is 5040.