Time for new tires. I read old posts and it looks like toyo would be the way to go. I'm confused on the differences between the models. Also should I stay with 275/80/22.5 ? I was looking at the 170, 177, and I believe 154. Appreciate being steered in the right direction.
Thanks
The M137 gets my vote in the Toyo lineup, lower rolling resistance, less tread squirm, 295 /75 /22.5 works well for my coach.
M137 Extreme Long Haul Commercial Steer Tire | Toyo Tires (https://www.toyotires.com/commercial-truck/tire/pattern/m137-extreme-long-haul-steer-tire)
I believe you would be happy with the Toyo M137 or the M154.
Toyo recommends the M137 for steer and trailer use. They recommend the M154 for steer, trailer, and drive use.
I went with the M154 as it was recommended to me by the store manager of the tire dealer that use to supply all the diesel pushers for both Country Coach and Monaco that were made in Oregon.
I am on my forth diesel pusher riding on Toyo tires all from the same dealer in Junction City. OR. In those 16 yrs, never once had a tire issue. He recommended the 16 ply rated H series 295/75R22.5 M154.
M154 Long, Regional and Urban Haul Commercial Tire | Toyo Tires (https://www.toyotires.com/commercial-truck/tire/pattern/m154-long-haul-regional-and-urban-all-position-tire)
The 275/80/22.5 is built by Michelin now. I would have used those, however, none were available locally when I needed them. I belive the Michelin may ride better, and they are excellent tires, often costing more. You might check out the FMCA tire program for price on Michelin. The Toyo tires will rub slightly on a full turn either left or right, with no real problem though, since this only will occur at a very low coach speed. This is documented many times on the forum. It has not been a problem for me.
So 295/75/22.5 will work all the way around? I'll see what availability is on the numbers mentioned above. I'm in Maryland and no one locally seems to stock Toyo. I'm looking at ordering from tires direct or Simple tire.
Thanks for the info.
I run Toyo 177s I think, Load Range H on mine they are just fine for the last 3 years. Watch out here comes all the Michelin folks.
Toyo is excellent but others are also. 295/75R22.5 polishes the mounting plate very slightly on ours and only making contact on tight off camber turns, not normally on ours on most trips. I've never heard any kind of noise when this happens. The contact can't do any kind of damage. Toyo is hard to pass up if the price is right.
Michelin is known for shorter casing life before the cracks start to appear. Bridgestone/Firestone the longest casing life.
275/80R22.5 and 295/75R22.5 are the same diameter with the 295 being a lower profile so about 3/4" wider. and easier to find a replacement if needed. To me, it's a more modern size and more in line with the aspect ratios on today's cars compared to 20 years ago.
Bruce, no worries, I've locked out the Michelin guys. >:D
Pierce
I have Bridgestones on this coach and they are great. Last coach there was Bridgestones on the front and Toyo on the rear. They all
worked well.
I disagree. I've gotten 10 year life on Michelin's using my tire care program without sidewall cracking. The two Bridgestones I've been running on my tag are showing sidewall cracking after four years.
That's impressive life span, what is your tire care program?
Last month I purchased 6 M177. $2400 Used 16 oz 1/10 inch balance beads. Toyo rates them as steer tires but in the fine print they say they are fine for drive. Have 1500 miles on them. I plan to trade them in at about five years old for new ones. I understand I can get half value to trade in towards new Toyos. Plan to do this for the life of our coach. The added single tire load rating of he M177 is what sold me. Front axle rating is in the 13k range. I don't have any experience with them other than this, hope this helps. Currently would repurchase
Scott
I check and correct tire pressure every morning before rolling the coach on each travel day and check tire temp with an IR gauge at every stop. I drive the coach at least once a month, and drive at least 10K miles a year so aging during storage is not an issue. My tires are always covered if I'm staying someplace for more than a week.