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Title: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: jor on August 18, 2020, 08:42:13 pm
I usually fill up at the big truck stops but can't do so tomorrow. The station I'm going to sells the Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel. I know the newer engines thrive on this stuff but is there any reason not to use it in my 8.3 mechanical with 150,000 miles? Thanks.
jor
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on August 18, 2020, 09:03:13 pm
Ultra low sulphur diesel is the only thing sold in California with biodiesel added at most stations especially in the high smog areas like the Sacramento Valley. With biodiesel, you gain the lubricity back.

Pierce
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: bbeane on August 18, 2020, 09:18:09 pm
Biodiesel is here to stay, you don't have much choice but to run it. Some folks say it's hard on some rubber gaskets and fuel lines, but who can tell on 20 year old things
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on August 18, 2020, 09:37:37 pm
How much is cooking oil per gallon now?
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: MT Ted on August 18, 2020, 09:53:31 pm
I always, every tank use some kind of lubricity additive in my diesel fuel. If its for my  02 ford powerstroke or my 92 silver detroit  it gets treated. My work truck that makes my living, an 08 international, it hates any kind of additive. all that exhaust emission stuff goes into over drive. Thats just how I roll.
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: TGordon on August 18, 2020, 10:12:30 pm
I am having new fuel hose built by HYSPECO, a Parker distributor. I wanted to get 100% Biodiesel rated, but that was not possible in my time frame, so I'm getting 20% Biodiesel rated hose.
I went to Inland Diesel but the hose they were going to use was not rated for use as fuel lines; continues contact with diesel fuel or gasoline. The parts guy said: "we have used this forever".
Oh well, that's the way it goes....
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on August 18, 2020, 10:52:20 pm
I've never heard about biodiesel damaging fuel lines. Our generator hose that was bad had a million cracks on the outside but nothing wrong on the inside. Sounds like a sales ploy to me.

Pierce
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: bbeane on August 18, 2020, 10:56:54 pm
T Gordon, I use Trident marine Barrier hose A1-15  when I did the fuel lines on mine. It's a nylon lined hose rated for biodiesel. I too found after talking to people about which hose they used some where not even rated for diesel fuel.
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: bigdog on August 19, 2020, 12:19:59 am
All the research I have found about bio-diesel has stated that it does not contain any type of alcohol. Alcohol is used to process the long chain fatty esters. But it is removed and recycled to process more biomass into diesel. I'm not sure where folks got the idea that bio-diesel has alcohol.
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: Twig on August 19, 2020, 08:48:42 am
All diesel in the US is ULSD. You've been using it for years. As of December 1, 2010, all diesel fuel sold in the U.S. must be ULSD, and pumps dispensing ULSD must be labeled as such.
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: Jack Lewis on August 19, 2020, 09:50:57 am
Twig, nd others, so true. When the mandate came into being in 2010, many of my customers were very upset they had to start using this "new" fuel, and I also was concerned.  Then I learned that all of my customers, and me, had already been running on this ULSD for several years. The west coast fuel distributers wanted to make sure they were not in violation of the 2010 mandate, so they switched over years early to make sure the supply system was 100% ULSD.

"EPA began regulating diesel fuel sulfur levels in 1993. Beginning in 2006, EPA began to phase-in more stringent regulations to lower the amount of sulfur in diesel fuel to 15 ppm. This fuel is known as ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD)."

Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD)
Consumers with 2007 or later model year diesel vehicles should only fuel them with ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD). ULSD is a cleaner-burning diesel fuel that contains 97% less sulfur than low-sulfur diesel (LSD). ULSD was developed to allow the use of improved pollution control devices that reduce diesel emissions more effectively but can be damaged by sulfur. It is also safe to use with older diesels.

Check the Label
As of December 1, 2010, all diesel fuel sold in the U.S. must be ULSD, and pumps dispensing ULSD must be labeled as such (except in California). Labels similar to those shown here can be found on the upper two-thirds of the pump.

ULSD
Ultra-Low Sulfur Highway Diesel Fuel (15 ppm Sulfur Maximum). Required for use in all model year 2007 and later highway diesel vehicles and engines. Recommended for use in all diesel vehicles and engines."
Title: Re: Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
Post by: Caflashbob on August 19, 2020, 12:08:03 pm
Cetane boosters help my engine(s) have a noticeably smoother idle