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Title: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: kepeters on October 28, 2020, 02:18:08 pm
Does anybody know a shop in the Spokane / CDA , WA area that sells Toyo 16M-154 or Continental 16HS3 Eco Plus and can install a Safe-T-Pin Cylinder at the same time?

Regards

Klaus
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Pin installed
Post by: dsd on October 28, 2020, 02:57:21 pm
Klaus
No and no
But is the Toyo have enough capacity for your steer tire requirements at 6610 lbs single load rating?
Scott
M154 | Toyo Tires Canada (https://www.toyotires.ca/tires/premium-regional-all-position-steer-radial-m154)
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Pin installed
Post by: dsd on October 28, 2020, 03:02:07 pm
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Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Pin installed
Post by: kepeters on October 28, 2020, 03:38:45 pm
I screwed up, we foreigners do not speak English that well. Mea culpa.

I meant to say Safe-T-Plus,  the hydraulic steering dampener.

Regards

Klaus
PS.

Can the moderator change the topic title to Safe-T-Plus?
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Pin installed
Post by: Jack Lewis on October 28, 2020, 04:26:45 pm
Does anybody know a shop in the Spokane / CDA , WA area that sells Toyo 16M-154 or Continental......

Les Schwab in your area carries TOYO.  In Oregon I recommend  Hendersons in Grants Pass for the Safe-T-Plus.

les schwab near me washinton - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-sprint-us-sscr-revc&ei=u9SZX743pOXmAq_wuLAO&q=les+schwab+near+me+washinton&oq=les+schwab+near+me+washinton&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBwghEAoQoAEyBwghEAoQoAEyBwghEAoQoAE6BggAEAcQHjoCCAA6BQgAEMkDOgkIABDJAxAWEB46BggAEBYQHjoFCCEQoAE6CAghEBYQHRAeUKAaWIVBYPhFaABwAHgAgAGDAogBihSSAQYwLjEuMTCYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp)

Road Performance Assessment, Safe-T-Plus, and MCU's feedback - Henderson's... (https://www.hendersonslineup.com/blog/road-performance-assessment--safe-t-plus--and-mcu-s-feedback)

Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: len.barron on October 29, 2020, 05:08:33 pm
Every coach I've owned has had a safe-t-plus...they just work. Ordered the new one for my GV a couple days ago pretty simply DIY project..
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: Chuck Pearson on October 29, 2020, 07:58:55 pm
I'd second Jack Lewis' suggestion for Henderson's Line Up for the safe t plus.  I don't know if they are still doing it, but they used to offer an air operated mechanism that allowed you to adjust the bias of the safe t plus for side winds etc. as an add on the safe t plus.  I have heard they are pretty on top of the game for coach steering adjustments, repairs and mods in general.  No personal experience, but lots of positive comments from others.
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: kepeters on October 29, 2020, 08:20:00 pm
I am absolutely convinced and will order Safe-T-Plus. Thank you all for the input.

Was just looking for a shop that could do it and replace tires at the same time.

Regards

Klaus
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: RandallBrink on November 04, 2020, 04:33:27 pm
Ross Point Truck and RV, Post Falls, ID would likely be able to do both. I bought my TOYOs at Les Schwab, on E Sprague in Spokane Valley.
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: Woody & Sitka on November 04, 2020, 05:54:48 pm
I'm running those exact tires on my coach.  120psi in the fronts.  Ride's fine but I have nothing to compare.

They do smell funky though...even 2 years on.

 
Klaus
No and no
But is the Toyo have enough capacity for your steer tire requirements at 6610 lbs single load rating?
Scott
M154 | Toyo Tires Canada (https://www.toyotires.ca/tires/premium-regional-all-position-steer-radial-m154)
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: wolfe10 on November 04, 2020, 06:30:46 pm
I'm running those exact tires on my coach.  120psi in the fronts.  Ride's fine but I have nothing to compare.

They do smell funky though...even 2 years on.

 

Is 120 PSI based on your actual front axle weight or ??

Agree-- with nothing to compare it with, you don't know if there may be a vast improvement in the wind or this is what it should be

But, I DO have an educated guess!
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: dsd on November 04, 2020, 06:48:11 pm
They do smell funky though...even 2 years on.
Lol I agree. DW not at all happy with the Toyo scent. Lol
Scott
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: bigdog on November 04, 2020, 06:55:15 pm
Lol I agree. DW not at all happy with the Toyo scent. Lol
Scott
I don't often have my nose stuck to my Toyo tire. Well, Unless I pass out and land on it. You could just douse it in 303. That might help.
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: Hans&Marjet on November 04, 2020, 07:11:53 pm
I'm running those exact tires on my coach.  120psi in the fronts.  Ride's fine but I have nothing to compare.

They do smell funky though...even 2 years on.

 
Woody...120psi.....wow !!
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on November 04, 2020, 10:20:25 pm
If that is a H rated Toyo, it's probably at it's max capacity at 125 psi so unless the ride is harsh, there is no reason not to run it at 120 psi. A tire won't blow up until well over 300 psi. Ours are G rated so I run them at 110 psi. The ride at that pressure is fine.

Pierce
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: Woody & Sitka on November 04, 2020, 11:58:54 pm
I've weighed my coach 3 times.  Each time the front axle is 12,900 to 13,800 pounds...just 80 pounds shy of the max gross for front axle on this coach.  According to attached Toyo tables, that puts me right at 120psi for the fronts for the 6,900 mean....haven't had individual sides weighed yet.  They are H rated.  Woody.

https://www.toyotires.com/media/2155/2017_commercial_loadandinflation_tables.pdf 
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: craneman on November 05, 2020, 12:15:40 am
Same with my coach, need 120 psi. for weight. Left today and they got to 139 in the San Joaquin Valley.
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: dsd on November 05, 2020, 06:40:31 am
M177 H rated
FEATURES SIZES AND SPECIFICATIONS
Tire Size           Load/Speed   Product Code     Load Single (lbs.)   Max Pressure Single (psi)
295/75R22.5   144/141L           547090             6175/5675           110/110        G
295/75R22.5   149/146L           547130             7160/6610           125/125.        H
7160 lbs gets you out of being at max load and pressures
This is what disqualified the M154 for me.
Scott
Title: Re: Spokane area advice for buying 295/75R-22.5 and have Safe-T-Plus installed
Post by: saddlesore on November 09, 2020, 01:57:16 am
M177 H rated
FEATURES SIZES AND SPECIFICATIONS
Tire Size           Load/Speed   Product Code     Load Single (lbs.)   Max Pressure Single (psi)
295/75R22.5   144/141L           547090             6175/5675           110/110        G
295/75R22.5   149/146L           547130             7160/6610           125/125.        H
7160 lbs gets you out of being at max load and pressures
This is what disqualified the M154 for me.
Scott
Yup.. I made the mistake of putting 154's on. run 110 lbs on steers, otherwise gets squirrely  with ruts and groves in the pavement.
on. the next go around will get the 149's