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Title: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: cynjac on November 15, 2020, 11:17:40 pm
Is one type fitting better than the other (compression versus push to fit) or is it just preference or ease of installation?

I have some air leaks on my coach and most seem to be coming from the push to fit fittings. I have replaced some of the ptf fittings with compression fittings. My research on this subject has only come up with the cheaper push to fit fittings for ease of installation.

jack
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: bbeane on November 15, 2020, 11:43:51 pm
We had several new class 8 trucks that used push lock fittings, replaced most of them with compression fittings due to leaks. Not a fan of push locks.
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: oldguy on November 16, 2020, 12:14:15 am
They keep trying to invent the wheel.
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: folivier on November 16, 2020, 08:31:05 am
Any stress from bends near the fitting or even vibrations could cause the push fittings to leak.  Also over time the ends could get brittle and cause leaks.  I prefer the DOT compression fittings.  It is also possible to tighten the fitting if it leaks.  Not possible with push fit other than cutting the end or replacing the fitting.
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: JohnFitz on November 16, 2020, 09:08:42 am
To get the reliability of compression fittings it's important to use DOT fittings that are made for the DOT tubing that is on our coaches.
Up until about a year ago I worked for a locomotive manufacture; they (and the industry a whole) do not allow push-to-fit fittings.

Here's an old post on the subject with details:  Pulling Wheel Well Fenders for Air Bag Installation (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=31377.msg276671#msg276671)
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: fkjohns6083 on November 16, 2020, 09:30:06 am
I get my compression fittings from Freightliner.  They go in easily and I have had no leakers.  Have a great day  ----  Fritz
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: cynjac on November 16, 2020, 09:59:43 am

Thanks to all for your responses. Your Foretravel and work experience and opinions are so important.

jack
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: Old Toolmaker on November 16, 2020, 10:04:38 am
Is one type fitting better than the other (compression versus push to fit) or is it just preference or ease of installation?

 My research on this subject has only come up with the cheaper push to fit fittings for ease of installation.

jack

Push to connect fitting work great on the shop floor where air line changes need to be made on a regular basis.

You also wrote "cheaper push to fit fittings" so I think you answered your own question.  Use the compression fittings made for flexible tubing.
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: bpal on November 16, 2020, 01:24:31 pm
Grainger carries the Parker DOT fittings at a competitive price. Easy to pick up if you have one nearby or fast shipping.
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: hdff on November 16, 2020, 05:09:57 pm
Compression is the way to go. Push fittings are great for assembly lines where ease of construction is desired.


Keith
Title: Re: Air Line Fittings - Compression vs Push to Fit
Post by: pibutler on November 16, 2020, 06:20:45 pm
I have never had a problem with "push" fittings and we use them on our Fire Trucks. But we purchase brass, heavy duty push fittings. Used mainly for gauges and other accessories that come off the secondary air tank. I find them much easier to use, especially when you are in hard to reach areas. Make sure you use a proper airline cutter - the push on's need a clean straight edge.

Pat