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Title: Diesel Years and Emissions
Post by: floridarandy on December 21, 2020, 12:52:12 pm
Can someone provide me with a general idea of which years, say from mid 1990's to mid 2000's, have which kind of engines as it relates to mechanical/EGR/DEF construction/requirements. 

Probably asking this question crudely but hopefully you'll get the idea.

Thanks
Title: Re: Diesel Years and Emissions
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on December 21, 2020, 01:04:29 pm
See if these links help answer your question:

Diesel pusher engine without emissions controls - iRV2 Forums (https://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/diesel-pusher-engine-without-emissions-controls-432320.html)

what year did they chg diesel emissions stds - iRV2 Forums (https://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/what-year-did-they-chg-diesel-emissions-stds-63440.html)

Emission Standards: USA: Heavy-Duty Onroad Engines (https://dieselnet.com/standards/us/hd.php)
Title: Re: Diesel Years and Emissions
Post by: floridarandy on December 21, 2020, 01:12:46 pm
Chuck...partially.  I'm particularly interested in which year's engines had EGR and which added required DEF.
Title: Re: Diesel Years and Emissions
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on December 21, 2020, 01:22:34 pm
I'm particularly interested in which year's engines had EGR and which added required DEF.
"On Jan 1 2007 the updated EPA requirements made DPF (particulate filter) necessary and diesel fuel economy took a hit. Then on Jan 1, 2010, further updated EPA regs required the addition of a catalytic exhaust treatment and the use of DEF to feed it."

"An advanced exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), diesel oxidation catalyst (DOC), and diesel particulate filter (DPF) completed the emissions system on 2007 to 2012 (Cummins) model year trucks."

Requirement for DEF - iRV2 Forums (https://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/requirement-for-def-272233.html)
Title: Re: Diesel Years and Emissions
Post by: Michelle on December 21, 2020, 04:45:39 pm
"On Jan 1 2007 the updated EPA requirements made DPF (particulate filter) necessary and diesel fuel economy took a hit. Then on Jan 1, 2010, further updated EPA regs required the addition of a catalytic exhaust treatment and the use of DEF to feed it."

"An advanced exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), diesel oxidation catalyst (DOC), and diesel particulate filter (DPF) completed the emissions system on 2007 to 2012 (Cummins) model year trucks."

Requirement for DEF - iRV2 Forums (https://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/requirement-for-def-272233.html)

Do keep in mind that in small-volume builders like Foretravel, the engines can actually be a few years older than the model year coach.  FT did a "last time buy" of the pre-DEF "2007-2010" engines and I believe those were used into the 2012 and maybe even 2013 coaches.  That era ISX being a "known problem child", even without the challenges of DEF, for valve issues.
Title: Re: Diesel Years and Emissions
Post by: Realmccoy on December 21, 2020, 05:08:34 pm
Foretravel wasn't the only manufacturer that stocked up on engines. For example, Winnebago is still building V10 class c's while smaller builders have switched to 7.3.
Title: Re: Diesel Years and Emissions
Post by: Michelle on December 21, 2020, 05:59:54 pm
Foretravel wasn't the only manufacturer that stocked up on engines. For example, Winnebago is still building V10 class c's while smaller builders have switched to 7.3.

That would be an entire chassis, too, not just an engine.