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Title: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: Elliott on February 22, 2021, 10:16:18 pm
I'm not really sure what this particular cover is called at the end of the block. It's the housing for the gears coming off the camshaft that drive the different pulleys. There's a plastic plug in the center that appears to be leaking. I assume it's due to oil sloshing around in the block as the gears turn. The plug feels brittle and I'm hoping it's as simple as sourcing a new plug and replacing. Has anyone encountered this? The oil you see on the cover in the attached picture is from about 3k miles of driving.

I'm a little surprised that there's enough pressure behind there to make the oil spray upwards above the plug as it leaks out.
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: SteveB on February 22, 2021, 10:29:36 pm
Pretty sure that is not oil spray but just capillary action causing the oil to move upward. My engine looks the same and your right, we need to replace that cover.

Steve
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: Elliott on February 22, 2021, 10:33:11 pm
Pretty sure that is not oil spray but just capillary action causing the oil to move upward.
That makes sense, good call out. I'm curious what the little plug is for... seems you could maybe just replace that instead of the whole cover. I briefly looked through my M11 shop manual and couldn't find any info on it
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: MisterEd on February 22, 2021, 10:43:24 pm
The gear cover plug is Cummins PN 3892666
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: Elliott on February 22, 2021, 10:48:35 pm
The gear cover plug is Cummins PN 3892666
Amazing recall, bravo!

A quick google search indicates they're hard to source here in the US but readily available in China. I'll give my local cummins shop a call tomorrow and see what they charge for one.

Is replacing it as simple as prying the old one out while the engine is cold and pushing a new one in?

What's the point of this plug?
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: MisterEd on February 22, 2021, 11:40:52 pm
Yeah, a Cummins shop is your best bet.

It probably has a lip on the backside for retention. Since it's old, be careful not to break the lip off when prying it out.

I have no idea why that hole/plug is there... could have been for some option not used on our CPL.... or maybe access to a screw???

Greg

Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: SteveB on February 23, 2021, 08:39:02 am
If I remember correctly it is to access the cam gear timing marks (?).

Steve
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: Elliott on February 23, 2021, 11:37:38 am
Oooof. 37 minute estimated wait right now when you call Cummins parts department.
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on February 23, 2021, 12:03:01 pm
One of my plugs is leaking about the same as yours and it was replaced about 40K miles ago.  Probably have a finite life expectancy.  If you find them get two.
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: Elliott on February 23, 2021, 12:27:45 pm
One of my plugs is leaking about the same as yours and it was replaced about 40K miles ago.  Probably have a finite life expectancy.  If you find them get two.
For shiggles, I put in an RFQ on Alibaba to see what the per/unit price would be if we did a bulk buy. Seems to be $5-$10/ea. I'll update this thread when I know what Cummins charges and what China charges
Title: Re: M11 Oil Leak from the plug at end of block?
Post by: Elliott on February 23, 2021, 01:19:58 pm
For shiggles, I put in an RFQ on Alibaba to see what the per/unit price would be if we did a bulk buy. Seems to be $5-$10/ea. I'll update this thread when I know what Cummins charges and what China charges
So they're $8.30/ea from Cummins and about a $1 from china + shipping. I placed an order over the phone with the Cummins corporate customer service center and it'll be ready for pickup here at the Avondale Cummins later today.