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Title: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: floridarandy on March 04, 2021, 01:24:48 pm
When we purchased our 2000 34' U270 in 2017 it was in pretty good shape.  Before taking delivery MOT replaced airbags and fuel lines and added a Progressive Industries EMS.  Shortly after taking delivery we hooked up with Paul Yasbeck in Leesburg, FL who has done everything else that's been done to the coach.  Readers will know that although I'm intrigued with all the DIY talent on the Forum, my only talent is the ability and willingness to write checks for properly done work we chose to do after significant research and thought.

Shortly after returning to Florida from MOT we added the SeeLevel tank monitoring system  TPMS for the coach and toad, and replaced the original Dometic refrigertor/freezer and separate U-line ice maker..  Since 2018 we've added day/night MCD shades, replaced the radiator, brakes (including turning rotors and replacing bearings), Koni shocks and added a Safety-T-Plus steering stabilizer.  So other than minor air system leaks and regular annual service the coach will be mechanically sound as much as we an do with preventive replacements and maintenance.

After our 2020 trip we committed to our final big investment....a redo of the interior and an entirely new energy management system.

Interior

We replaced the original Flexsteel captains chairs with special order Villa chairs in the color scheme we'd seen in a new IC37.  This gave us the co-pilot electric leg rest and lumbar supports missing in the originals...as well as factory shoulder harnesses built into the chairs.  We also ordered ultra leather in the same color as the base color of the chairs and had all the original material replaced on the entry door, dash, and over dash valance.

We also completely replaced the flooring from the entry to the bedroom with Mannington Adura Flex LVT.  In a previous post we showed the condition of the "wet step" which necessitated rebuidling the bottom box of the entry stairs.  We ordered color matched Roppe floor treads (to match flooring and carpet) on the entry steps as well as using the same carpet on the entry step walls that we'd previously installed in the bedroom and along the wire chases along the walls from the front of the coach rearward.

The final interior upgrade was installation of 2 - 15k BTU Dometic heat pump AC's, both with Soft-start, and a new, programable control.  We can now schedule AC startup when we leave the coach and have AC cool the coach before we return on hot days, even without hookups (see Energy Management below).

Energy Management System

After carefully studying the work of others, particularly with input form Roger Engdahl and Jeff Lendroth, we had 6-100Ah Batteborn GC2 lithium house batteries installed along with Victron 3000 Multiplus inverter, Victron SmartSolar charge controller, Victron Lynx Distributor DC distribution system, Victron Battery Protect, Victron BMV 712 monitor and Victron Orion 30 amp DC-DC charger.  As part of this energy system upgrade we also replaced the original starter and addd an upgraded 160w alternator (U270 originally came with 140w).

To report system performance we added the Victron Cerbo GX module and the GX50 touchscreen color monitor.  This provides not only reporting on the color panel in the coach, nearby reporting by bluetooth on our iPhone/pad and, when Ole Red has Internet service, monitoring and control of the entire system from anywhere via internet.

One significant advantage of the new energy management system is auto-generator control including autostart under a variety of conditions, including voltage and AC load.  While the energy management system can run one of the AC's for 3 hours (without solar input) or longer with solar supplement, the generator autostart can also be programmed to start the generator when the AC load exceeds 1500 watts in order to preserve battery capacity (see below).  Generator controls also allow input of Quiet Hours to ensure that any needed or desired generator start conditions don't violate park quiet hours.

Finally, we installed 6- Hightec Solar 210w panels using AM Solar stainless Rocker Feet which allow tilting although we have not added the tilt bars.  The tilt function simply makes the panels easier to move when we want to clean beneath them.

What it Worth It?

We love traveling in Ole Red.  All of these improvements....maintenance, interior and energy management...were done to enhance our enjoyment of our Foretravel.  None of them make financial sense and we don't expect to get that money out when we sell someday.  We do think it will make our coach highly desirable and easier to sell than other 20+ year old coaches.  We think every owner should do whatever makes them happy and we enjoy all that each owner we've come in contact with has done to make their coach right for them.

We do plan to have the coach appraised, however, and increase the stated value for insurance purposes in order to recover a significant amount of what we've invested should the coach ever be totaled.  Yes, a bigger premium, but worth it given our investment.

One final thought on economics...most of you will remember my stating in numerous replies to posts regarding how much to invest in a Foretravel...even with all that we've put into our coach from original acquisition to these improvements...we still have less invested than a new coach with comparable appointments and have a coach with a quality level many times over that of a new rig.

Thanks for taking a look.

Randy and Karen
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: floridarandy on March 04, 2021, 01:26:50 pm
Here are more pictures.
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: floridarandy on March 04, 2021, 01:45:04 pm
Pics of Old vs New.
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: floridarandy on March 04, 2021, 01:45:34 pm
More Old vs New
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Dub on March 04, 2021, 02:49:03 pm
I always have liked the paint and come to find out that's just the beginning. Your coach is sweet..Great job.
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 04, 2021, 03:24:16 pm
When I saw the coach at Jacqui's, it looked great then. Even better now.

Their new house with the RV carport next to it with 50 amps is going to be a magnet for you guys.

Pierce
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Keith and Joyce on March 04, 2021, 04:24:37 pm
Andy,

You are to be congratulated for a first class job.  Well done.

Keith
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 04, 2021, 06:46:17 pm
Nice job Randy, neat and tidy.  Now go test it out and report back on performance.  I think you will be pretty glad you did it all.  These projects help others think through what is possible.  The performance reports help them understand what it can do for them.

Roger
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: juicesqueezer on March 04, 2021, 08:11:59 pm
Awesome job Randy!
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: tmehrkam on March 07, 2021, 05:37:57 pm
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Beeman on March 08, 2021, 09:54:55 am
Looks fantastic, amazing attention to detail, can't wait to see it!  The interior changes complete your rig!

This energy "stuff" just gets better and better, the technology works and really changes the comfort level over many use cases as you'll find on your journeys this year...  As Roger says; (documenting)  "these projects  help others think through what is possible". It certainly helped me move forward. Now I have a few tweaks I want to do to my system based on your post Randy, Thanks!

Jeff

 
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 08, 2021, 10:11:02 am
If you look at Randy's six CG2 batteries in his U270 bay you will see there is room to spare.  Compare that to the same batteries in the same U320 bay in my coach and you will see no spare room. And with a slide in the 99-01 coaches there is an extra truss under the slide opening to contend with.  In Jeff's 2002 40' the batteries are in the middle of the coach.  Don't make the mistake of assuming that coaches of different models with different lengths and production years are the same. They are not.

So if you are considering battery and wiring upgrades you need to look at your coach to determine best fit for what works in your coach.  The basic plan for what to do is the same (with some variations) but how you make it happen depends on how and where it fits.  Measure carefully. Do your homework. Detail planning saves time and mistakes. Ask for some help when you need it.
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Brucep86 on March 25, 2021, 08:04:19 am
It all looks great Randy.  Can you provide a little information about the TV upgrade?  How is it mounted, and will the side cabinet door on the left side of the TV still open? 
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: floridarandy on April 26, 2021, 08:41:18 am
It all looks great Randy.  Can you provide a little information about the TV upgrade?  How is it mounted, and will the side cabinet door on the left side of the TV still open? 

Here are pics of  40" Visio tv install. Done by previous owner and has held up without issue.
Supported on bottom by bracket and on cabinet side by small wood block. Orange strap while traveling.
Title: Re: New Energy and Facelift for Ole Red
Post by: Brucep86 on April 26, 2021, 09:40:27 am
Thanks for the update Randy.