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Title: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 04, 2021, 09:47:53 pm
For the current server that is.

The server that has hosted the site from the beginning is in desperate need of upgrades.  Unfortunately to do that on the existing server is not the best path, and instead moving to a new server is underway.  The new one will of course have more processing power, memory, disk space, speed all the goodies you get with new(er) hardware.  We are currently very tight on storage and memory so getting some breathing room will be nice.

Also being updated is the server software, the version we are running is EOL.  That means its difficult to patch for security and newer versions of the most important software does not want to run on it.  We are now 3 generations back and trying to upgrade that "stack" to the most recent is just ugly.

Since that is not enough, the version of the forum software we are running is also EOL, so that will be updated to the most recent as well.  There will be some subtle visual changes, and some new features, but nothing that I would call major in terms of how you use it.  Everything one normally does should be no different.

Lastly we are trying out a new version of the "media" area.  Now this is a different software so the interface will be different, but then again the current Media section has a large collection of delightful quirks.  This will likely be after the move, but its something being worked on.

This weekend is the target to move, which means the site will begin to display an "in maintenance mode" page.  Steve has done as much as possible to prepare for the move so the downtime *should* be only a few hours.  The new server has a new IP address, as such name servers need to be updated.  Depending on your host that can take some time, up to a day for some, nothing to do on your end it just happens.

After we are back, I'd expect some issues that will need to be resolved, email comes to mind, as does search.  Those can't be fully prepared ahead of the move so do expect some glitches here and there as things come back to life.

Carry on.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on March 04, 2021, 10:29:22 pm
Many thanx for all the time and effort you guys expend making this Forum such a nice place to hang out.


Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: "Irish" on March 04, 2021, 10:37:38 pm
Thank you! It's such an amazing asset for Foretravel owners to have the forum available at no charge, a place to go where "friends" help friends and all without annoying adverts or politics.
All your work and moderating is really appreciated,
David
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: bbeane on March 04, 2021, 10:40:56 pm
Thanks for all your hard work keeping things running smoothly
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Dave & Diane on March 04, 2021, 10:52:55 pm
If you guys find yourselves in a bind, I have a lightly used fully managed server in a top tier data center in Chicago that can assist. Just let me know. 
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: AC7880 on March 04, 2021, 11:46:21 pm
Do you need some member financial support to cover the costs?

I'd be happy to contribute to a go fund me or paypal to help defray the costs.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: kepeters on March 05, 2021, 12:41:37 am
See replay # 5

I will also be happy to contribute if needed.

Regards

Klaus
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: rbark on March 05, 2021, 12:46:14 am
Same here!
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: jhardman on March 05, 2021, 02:58:34 am
Yes, thank you seems so insufficient, but we appreciate you, your efforts, and expenditures. Please let us know how we can help! I'm sure we could raise funds quickly via a GoFundMe or similar effort via the Foretravel Owners Facebook group if money would help. I also know a particular member who may share some of your technical expertise who might be willing to help, but would want to ask before I volunteer him. Pleas let me know if either of those would help, or anything I could do to help.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: John44 on March 05, 2021, 03:07:32 am
Same for us.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Gerry Vicha on March 05, 2021, 06:51:48 am
Me Too !!!!  Any Expense should be shared, more than willing to contribute.........  ^.^d  ^.^d  ^.^d
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: folivier on March 05, 2021, 08:17:48 am
Thanks for all that yall do to keep the forum going.
As a suggestion would it be possible going forward to break out the technical forum into different categories such as drivetrain, suspension, electrical, plumbing (including aquahot) ?  I know it would be a tremendous amount of work to re-categorize older posts but would make searching much easier if you could implement more categories for new posts.
PM me if you have any questions.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Old Toolmaker on March 05, 2021, 09:05:32 am
"Steve has done as much as possible to prepare for the move so the downtime *should* be only a few hours."

I love optimists.

"After we are back, I'd expect some issues that will need to be resolved,"

As in what to do with what's left of your hair?

I agree, where do we donate to the adult beverage fund?

Good Luck with the move.  None of this is life safety.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: bpal on March 05, 2021, 09:27:46 am
Good luck with the upgrade. I hope all goes well. Not a easy undertaking  ^.^d
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: juicesqueezer on March 05, 2021, 09:44:48 am
A huge shout out to you both for all you do to keep this great forum up and running!  Just one more reason to own a Foretravel!
Thank you, thank you!
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 05, 2021, 10:10:41 am
Thanks for the ongoing effort and support.  We all share in its benefit.  Like many, I would lend support if it was accepted, no strings attached.

To paraphrase Winston Churchill,  This is the beginning of the end that leads to a new beginning and new future. 
👍👍
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on March 05, 2021, 10:17:29 am
Truly appreciate the heads up Michelle. As the rest of the monthly crew above I would also be interested in helping. Who wouldn't let me spend so much time here? We like to see more space in the personal message box although I know that I should go back and trim... As should a lot of us but I find it's difficult to get rid of old messages that maybe one day I might want to read again LOL
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 05, 2021, 10:23:09 am
When you said to keep the quotes short, etc, I was wondering if site's memory was limited. Your work is appreciated and I know most of us would like to chip in to help so just ask.

Hope the new site will continue to have spell check. :D

Thanks again for the fantastic job you have been doing.

Pierce
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Elliott on March 05, 2021, 12:02:26 pm
I have done a few migrations like this and understand how much work and finesse is involved. Thank you and good luck. Count me in for a donation too
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: DayDreamer on March 05, 2021, 12:06:00 pm
I echo what all others are saying.  Count me in too. 
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: kenhat on March 05, 2021, 12:27:46 pm
I've done a few migrations lately and it's amazing the things the pop-up and bite you in the butt! Hope yours goes smoothly.

Looking forward to a brand new shiny server! :) Thanks for all your hard work!

see ya
ken
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: propman on March 05, 2021, 05:10:04 pm
Thank you so much!
At one time there was an inconspicuous button we could click on to make contributions. That may not be available anymore.
But the Amazon link is on the welcome page, that may help some. We just need to use it.

Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Realmccoy on March 05, 2021, 08:33:16 pm
Another forum family willing to help with new server cost.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Mark D on March 06, 2021, 08:23:31 pm
I too would contribute something to make sure this forum doesn't end up like beamalarm did (sorry I don't like the revisions and broken links).
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Phranko on March 06, 2021, 08:35:43 pm
We'd be more than happy to contribute to the expense/adult beverage fund.

Thanks for a great forum!
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: TGordon on March 06, 2021, 10:57:26 pm
Do you need some member financial support to cover the costs?

I'd be happy to contribute to a go fund me or paypal to help defray the costs.
Ditto!
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: "Irish" on March 06, 2021, 11:07:13 pm
We would be more than happy to help pay towards the cost of the forum, our village newspaper comes out every Thursday ($1.50) for 12 pages that are eagerly awaited reading to see who is doing what and what's happening locally.
I spend much more time reading articles on the forum, I learn more from it than from our village newspaper, the forum is required reading to solve the simplest of repairs I undertake on an aging 99 U270 that I love having. All those names: craneman, juicequeezer, redtractor, Pirolet, Roger, Protec racing, pierce and Gaylie and sooo many more graceracer, Wolfe 1, Michelle, and all of you who log in, are all part of an amazing group of people who I look forward to hearing about and from when I log in for a quick look during the day as I am sure many others do.
Surly this is worth financially supporting, $5, $10, $20 is so much less than I pay for that weekly newspaper! Please don't feel you cannot ask for help, it's what we all use the forum for, Count us in.
David & Emma
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Ron H on March 07, 2021, 01:11:31 am
Was wondering who is shouldering the forum ,,now I know. Thanks for your expertise and hard work! I'm in with a donation just say when and where....
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: stevec22 on March 07, 2021, 04:40:25 pm
Glad the site is back online.  I missed you guys
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: tmehrkam on March 07, 2021, 05:18:08 pm
It's Alive.  Great work.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: mark f on March 07, 2021, 05:19:59 pm
Thanks for all you do. I would be happy to donate.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: tmehrkam on March 07, 2021, 05:32:06 pm
They must of paid off or locked up Murphy.  Less than 16 hours was amazing.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Old Toolmaker on March 07, 2021, 06:36:32 pm
They must of paid off or locked up Murphy.  Less than 16 hours was amazing.

Or, once you've reached a certain age you know that the fastest way is slow and methodical with lots of written notes.

Congratulations! On surviving the up-grade.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 07, 2021, 06:47:10 pm
If you are reading this, you know the site is back.  As always there were some unexpected difficulties that took a bit of time to resolve but we *believe* most, if not all, of the major functions are working.  The forum may have been down less than a day (and thank you all for your patience while it was), but the effort was many weeks of "behind the scenes" testing in hopes of minimizing the disruption.

As you find problems and errors please let me know here or via PM so that we can address them.  Steve expects several theme glitches on various pages.  The updated theme works fine with the base software, but we have quite a few addons that have some difficulties with it.

Steve has not installed the new media section software, this is still the old version for now, just to much else going on ATM.

We know there are some theme quirks that need to be taken care of, and Steve has not had the chance to test things on mobile/pad devices.  The site is not (yet) running any compression or CDN for the data it servers, this is just to allow Steve to fix things quickly.

So welcome back and stick with us while we get everything ironed out. 



Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: dsd on March 07, 2021, 06:53:34 pm
Thank you so much for all you guys do.
Scott
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Greg & Erin Burress on March 07, 2021, 06:55:56 pm
Thanks so much for all the work.  Site is screaming fast!  Please let us know how we can help fund the site.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on March 07, 2021, 07:16:04 pm
Looks great to me!  Everything I use on a daily basis seems to be working fine.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: craneman on March 07, 2021, 07:58:01 pm
Did the site always have the quick reply box at the bottom. Never noticed it until today.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 07, 2021, 08:13:31 pm
Looks fine now. It's like if you only have one car. You take it for granted until it gets repossessed.  ;)

Thanks for the ultra quick work. Good thing you didn't have anything else planned for the weekend.

Pierce

Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: dsd on March 07, 2021, 09:03:52 pm
On both my phone and iPad screen defaults to left side of screen losing 20% on right?
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Jack Lewis on March 07, 2021, 09:15:13 pm
Same as dsd on 20-25%.
Looks great, please know your work is appreciated. 

I do have about 1/4 of the screen width blank, on the right side of my Android phone.  On my windows laptop it is ok, going all the way across.  The top menu choices and the bar all the way at the end, go all the way across though on the Android.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 07, 2021, 09:19:24 pm
On both my phone and iPad screen defaults to left side of screen losing 20% on right?

Noted - thank you!
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: hdff on March 07, 2021, 09:25:10 pm
Michelle, I noticed that the pic I had with my sig is no longer there, is that going to be a thing of the past?

I to would like to express my gratitude to what you and Steve have created here, I have met lots of forum foretravlers and hope to meet more.... This is a great place!!  Thank you!


Keith
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 07, 2021, 09:27:30 pm
Michelle, I noticed that the pic I had with my sig is no longer there, is that going to be a thing of the past?

Noted - thank you.  That is something to fix.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Elliott on March 07, 2021, 09:47:32 pm
Great job on the migration. If you need an idea of how valuable the forum is, go check on the Facebook group; the sky was falling today.

The right hand margin issue was present for me on my iPhone earlier but is no longer an issue.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Running Odometer on March 07, 2021, 10:42:33 pm
Michelle:

Thanks for all the hard work you put on this forum. This forum is what makes Foretravel ownership special.

While I was trying to upload some picture to my media library, I keep getting database error.

can you take a look?
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Jack Lewis on March 08, 2021, 05:42:25 am
Michelle,  looks great this morning.  Thank you for all your work.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Gerry Vicha on March 08, 2021, 07:17:00 am
Wow !!!! logged into Foreforums and Look what I found, Amazing !!!!  Thank You Steve and Michelle......  ^.^d  ^.^d  ^.^d
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 08, 2021, 08:58:04 am
While I was trying to upload some picture to my media library, I keep getting database error.

can you take a look?

Will do.  I think it's an underlying issue with the existing media section (which we did not change).  That entire section is in queue for a major upgrade so try to be patient  :)
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: nitehawk on March 08, 2021, 09:30:06 am
Why is the new format so light colored? Really light compared to the old format and all my other applications are still the way they always were. Just not this forum.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: GleamB on March 08, 2021, 09:33:18 am
When Andy 2 told me about Foretravel, he said "...now go inside and Google it..."
The forum came up
I read some posts, turned to Amy, and said "....we're gonna own one of these...."
Visiting the forum, a few times each day, is part of my regime
Thank you for making this exchange of ideas and knowledge possible
Much appreciated
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Old Toolmaker on March 08, 2021, 10:13:55 am
When Andy 2 told me about Foretravel, he said "...now go inside and Google it..."
The forum came up
I read some posts, turned to Amy, and said "....we're gonna own one of these...."
Visiting the forum, a few times each day, is part of my regime
Thank you for making this exchange of ideas and knowledge possible
Much appreciated

With us, we'd been researching WanderLodge and Fleetwood Bounder, because my brother has one.  Then one day Lynn said "Have you thought of Foretravel?  They have a good reputation."  He set me up to look at an FTX, and the FTX had everything except a Dinette.  The next one was this U225 and Lynn said it had semi-monococue frame, torsion bar suspension and a cedar wardrobe.  1,400 mile return trip in early February and we moved in March of that year.  Not enough trips since then but vaccinations are on the way.

This forum?  It's the community of like minded souls we need for information and conversation.  We have interesting skill sets, so we offer help whenever we can so do.

Thank you Michele and Steve, and once again congratulations on a smooth transition and up-grade.  Better you than me.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 08, 2021, 10:22:45 am
I see any attached photos come up as thumbnails now. Excellent!

Pierce
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on March 08, 2021, 11:56:37 am
With the new server, is there any chance of increasing the capacity of our individual PM mail boxes?  That would be nice.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 08, 2021, 12:02:38 pm
With the new server, is there any chance of increasing the capacity of our individual PM mail boxes?  That would be nice.

I have to discard older posts as well, maybe a way to download our individual PMs to save and then remove older ones to free up space would be nice.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Dub on March 08, 2021, 12:10:08 pm
On both my phone and iPad screen defaults to left side of screen losing 20% on right?
On your iPhone click on the arrow pointing to the right that should fill up the screen.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: WBates on March 08, 2021, 01:22:26 pm
Michelle:

What an amazing job you are doing for us all with the website! We are grateful. Please count me in with all the other forum members should there ever be a need to contribute in support of the site. 
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 08, 2021, 01:38:27 pm
FYI Steve is aware of the intermittent glitching with quoting not formatting (showing BBCode instead) and it's being looked into.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Keith and Joyce on March 08, 2021, 04:01:14 pm
Thanks for all this work.  Please let me know if funding is needed and I will chip in.

Keith
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on March 09, 2021, 01:19:38 pm
WOW  My personal Forum (PM) mailbox capacity just roughly TRIPLED in size!  Thank You Steve and MIchelle!  b^.^d
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: DayDreamer on March 09, 2021, 01:24:09 pm
I previously had my profile set to display posts in descending order so the most recent post in a thread was at the top.  I cannot seem to find that option now.  If it still exists, please advise on how to find it.

And like others have said, we really, really appreciate all the efforts from Michelle, Steve and the moderators for this awesome forum.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 09, 2021, 01:59:09 pm
I previously had my profile set to display posts in descending order so the most recent post in a thread was at the top.  I cannot seem to find that option now.  If it still exists, please advise on how to find it.

Steve seems to recall that was actually removed from the last version of the forum software, and he had "hacked" the code with remnants from a prior version to make it work.  He doesn't think that's going to be possible with the new version (it's something like 8 years' newer), but he's aware of the request.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Texhub on March 09, 2021, 05:20:32 pm
This might help others. I just signed in to the Fourm. Upon doing so. I was able to have full access to the new system. It was working fine pre this new sign on. Except was missing bookmark and other features. All is well. Super work by our support team. Mark
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 09, 2021, 07:11:15 pm
WOW  My personal Forum (PM) mailbox capacity just roughly TRIPLED in size!  Thank You Steve and MIchelle!  b^.^d
Yes, ours was at 99% and now at 28%. Keep those PM letter bombs coming!

Has anyone tried to attach a photo to a PM with the new upgrade?

Thanks again for all the improvements.

Pierce
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 09, 2021, 08:56:09 pm

Has anyone tried to attach a photo to a PM with the new upgrade?

Due to security concerns, attachments via PM or e-mail will not be supported.

The PM system is not and never has been intended to be a repository.  It costs server AND backup space to retain those messages, both of which we pay for.  We strongly prefer and recommend people copy the information in a PM and store it on their personal machine. 
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 09, 2021, 11:09:43 pm
I can see the reason behind that. Attachments with photos take a lot more room than text.

Using our regular email addresses and communicating that way only takes an extra step so no big deal..

Thanks for the reply.

Pierce
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 10, 2021, 10:04:43 am
I have had two replies to PMs get hung up going back through Foreforums.  Using iPad
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 10, 2021, 12:49:37 pm
I have had two replies to PMs get hung up going back through Foreforums.  Using iPad

That was fixed today. 

There were issues with e-mail processing yesterday.
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: peterg on March 10, 2021, 07:57:52 pm
THANK YOU
Title: Re: The End is Near
Post by: Michelle on March 24, 2021, 02:03:45 pm
FYI - we are aware of the photo compression issue where uploaded images are getting pixelated.  Steve is investigating