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Title: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: Protech Racing on March 17, 2021, 02:26:47 pm
 There have been talks of using the new technology of Inverter tech and sear 23..  The OE AC units are maybe sear 9 .
 Has anyone installed a Mini split yet?l

 I am looking at mounting the inside unit in the safe box and the outside in the grille , inplace of the dash AC bits.
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Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on March 17, 2021, 03:03:31 pm
Go for it!  I'm looking for you to blaze the trail.  Our dash air hasn't worked for years, and we don't have anything in the safe,so your plan sounds interesting.
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Post by: Bob & Sue on March 17, 2021, 03:15:10 pm
Lots of room up there for sure. 
 Before the solar and lithium add I thought about mounting the Honda 2000 up there.
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Post by: Protech Racing on March 17, 2021, 03:57:56 pm
Thats not a lot of help.
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Post by: Woody & Sitka on March 17, 2021, 04:23:04 pm
This guy did.  Not a watch for the faint hearted or originality purist.  Woody.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2napX5XnOTk&feature=share
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Post by: Texhub on March 17, 2021, 09:59:50 pm
He has follow on videos. Where he installs solar and batteries. His placement of mini split was driven by the deal he received on mini split. He had not even figured generator was unable to run mini split. Now with solar and batteries installed. He can run system. Mini split is 220 vac.
I think most of us would use 120 unit. There are a lot of models and brands. There is a unit from Mexico that is being sold in San Antonio that may have higher btu yet still 120. I have paused my study. Dealing with issues
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Post by: RvTrvlr on March 18, 2021, 10:06:06 am
I plan to install a mini split in the large open space under the front bumper of my U300 with the evap/air handler above the couch. I want to do it in a way which normal draft of driving indirectly moves air thru the condenser but doesn't overspeed the fan. Will be a million times quieter than the dometic rooftop I have, and probably still much quieter than the brand new atwoods I have still sitting in the box. I use the rv for a lot of music festivals and not fulltime anymore, so the more AC the better, especially when its loaded down with people.

The upgrades have all been put on the back burner because all my time is taken with my new Hatteras yacht. But I need to show the old rv some love soon.
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: Protech Racing on March 18, 2021, 12:44:12 pm
 I like that spot for the cooler also with running the cords down behind the Driver seat.  The 9000BTU should do the GV just fine. IMHO  My home unit just cruises  and cut the running cost in half .
 The 32in long  interior units are designed to drain from the right side , making mounting on the left cupboards  appealing . It will need room above the unit to draw warm air.
 The safe box would need  some air control in and out    and a new box  extension to 32in.  Lots of unused space there. 
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: Protech Racing on March 26, 2021, 11:05:15 am
I'm looking at the possibility of tipping the interior unit up on end and placing it in the bedroom corner cabinet.
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Post by: Jack Lewis on March 26, 2021, 09:12:38 pm
I'm looking at the possibility of tipping the interior unit up on end and placing it in the bedroom corner cabinet.
I use a couple mini splits in my stick and bricks home.  Often there are printed circuit boards, motors, etc on either end, and the moisture by design drains out the bottom when mounted correctly. There is alot of moisture removed by these units, mounting vertical may create more problems than just a minor issue.

I would sure check with the mfg, or at least the install pdf of various mfgs. like Samsung, LG, Mitsubishi, Gree, and the mfg you're planning to use to see if your mounting choice is allowed.

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Post by: rworley on March 27, 2021, 02:04:14 am
I'm looking at the possibility of tipping the interior unit up on end and placing it in the bedroom corner cabinet.
I think you will have a problem with the condensate drainage with the unit in other than horizontal, right side up position.
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: Protech Racing on March 27, 2021, 11:33:07 am
Yes. You would have to build a drain pan .
 Looked at it and that spot is NG anyway ..
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Post by: rvtinker on March 27, 2021, 05:58:34 pm
I've been thinking of a mini-split for some time.  It sure looks like enough room for an outside unit under the nose, but where to put the inside unit?  I found a possible answer, the Pioneer WYS009AMFI19RL-16 has an inside unit that it only 28.43 inches wide.  That would fit between the overhead cabinets over the door.  I am sure they want you to have more clearance than that, but they also don't  want them installed in RVs.  In for a penny...  So, with it mounted over the door, where to route the hoses?  How about out the left side of the unit, into the cabinet, then turn an run down the inside wall through the floor which with my floorplan puts it in the fuel tank bay.  Then forward to the outside unit suspended off the front frame.  And to hide the plumbing inside the coach, either the standard plastic enclosure, custom wood work, or maybe a few feet of 2.5 inch chrome exhaust tubing?
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: Protech Racing on March 28, 2021, 01:39:30 pm
All of the ones I have looked at, drain from the right end.  My Home unit is a Mr Cool and it showed that either end could drain.
 They dont tell you that in order to left drain, you have to tip the unit to the left at least 1/4 in for gravity feed  of the drain tray.
  That is why I am looking for the left side wall, to drain ride end.  But as you say , running the fat cord with drain  looks like poo.
 Has anyone shortened th cabinets??  Wood is not my strong point. That would be easy if the cabinet could be shortened. 
  I think that the rear cap to rear interior , has a large enough gap  that you could mount the unit over head and run the lines down to the compressor back there some place.
    The over head  cabinets over the driver seat has some room . But no  easy drain line  passage.
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: Bob & Sue on March 28, 2021, 03:48:27 pm
Depending on the ... height of that 29" unit. It would fit under the tv cabinet. It would just have to push the cold air up, if that's viable.      I guess if your pushing enough air ??

 Running power and drain would be easy pezy.
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: rvtinker on March 28, 2021, 07:56:06 pm
"All of the ones I have looked at, drain from the right end. 

The Pioneer WYS009AMFI19RL-16 installation manual shows a left side outlet option.  It says "Left rear most recommended, left side recommended, right rear less recommended, and right side not recommended unless absolutely necessary."
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: CRY42 on March 29, 2021, 07:12:00 pm
Local owner just completed install of a Split Mini.
Fabricated a rear mount attached to coach frame.
Replaced old A/C's with Mini Split Ceiling units.
Do not have any operational information at this time.
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Post by: folivier on March 29, 2021, 08:13:15 pm
Not sure that would work with the full lift up engine hatch.
I still think the area where the muffler is might be big enough for 2 units.  Another reason to go to a resonator.
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Post by: wolfe10 on March 29, 2021, 08:41:56 pm
Go through one wet, dirty or salty road, and that condenser would be finished.
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Post by: John Haygarth on March 30, 2021, 10:28:23 am
That Endeaver install looks crummy to me and those pipes etc really do no justice to the install.
JohnH
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Post by: Jan & Richard on March 30, 2021, 12:49:11 pm
That Endeaver install looks crummy to me and those pipes etc really do no justice to the install.
JohnH
It looks to me like it was a proof of concept prototype. 
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: wolfe10 on March 30, 2021, 02:12:11 pm
It looks to me like it was a proof of concept prototype. 

Or fine craftsmanship by BUBBA.
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Post by: Hans&Marjet on March 30, 2021, 02:20:39 pm
Mike Leary had a setup in his GV...not permanent but it worked great he said.
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Post by: rvtinker on April 01, 2021, 05:09:41 pm
Well, we shall see if my idea might work.  I just ordered the Pioneer unit, it should be shipped about the 15th and then I will see if I can shoehorn it in.
Title: Re: Mini split AC on board?
Post by: Protech Racing on April 02, 2021, 04:22:19 pm
That would cover my water tank access.  I have room right in the dash.. Remove the , HWH  panel ,CB, fancy  horn panel, and glove box. None of which I use. Glove box a little  , but the overheads are under utilized.