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Title: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: floridarandy on March 23, 2021, 02:17:33 pm
Took our coach to the shop to have our tires inspected before heading out this summer. All looked good except right front which had some minor cupping on the inside shoulder. I had them switch the outside rear with the right front as a precaution. Without any symptoms of that alignment, or out of balance, what are the potential things I should be looking for as the cause of this where pattern.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: Protech Racing on March 23, 2021, 02:32:00 pm
Doesnt that change the tires rotation?  I avoid that  for the big tires.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: floridarandy on March 23, 2021, 02:40:11 pm
The switch was passenger front to passenger rear outside.  Same rotation.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: Keith and Joyce on March 23, 2021, 02:41:59 pm
Andy,

There can be several causes of cupping.  The cause is the tire bouncing because of:

Out of balance tire

Worn suspention componants

Tire out of alignment.

Run over a smooth road at different speeds and see if you can detect even the slightest vibration in the steering wheel.  Go up to at least 65 mph.

If you can't do it yourself have that wheel lifted so the suspension is not bearing any weight then check for worn or loose components.

If all is OK have the alignment checked at a place that does big truck alignments.  A good machine will be a computer aligner that will not only check front end but rear as well as front to rear alignment.

Keith
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: DavidS on March 23, 2021, 08:40:54 pm
Can the rear be adjusted if its out? I was told by the alignment place they could not but I have never looked to see if it was able to be done but they do not want to do it.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: craneman on March 24, 2021, 12:34:54 am
If the coach is not crab crawling there is nothing an alignment shop can do. If it is crab crawling something is worn out or broke.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: Pamela & Mike on March 24, 2021, 06:54:06 am
If it is crab crawling something is worn out or broke.

My top 3 reasons Trailing arm bushings slop, Panhard bar bushings slop, or bulkhead joint failure.

Mike
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: John44 on March 24, 2021, 08:24:27 am
Could the cupping possibly have been the tire rubbing on the bottom of the rearmost air bag?Remind us,have you installed new shocks recently?I would consider having the balance beads installed or getting the concentric system.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: Protech Racing on March 24, 2021, 10:24:04 am
The switch was passenger front to passenger rear outside.  Same rotation.
Arent the rims flipped from outside to front?
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: floridarandy on March 24, 2021, 05:27:52 pm
Arent the rims flipped from outside to front?

Mike - dismounted and remounted.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: floridarandy on March 24, 2021, 05:28:50 pm
Could the cupping possibly have been the tire rubbing on the bottom of the rearmost air bag?Remind us,have you installed new shocks recently?I would consider having the balance beads installed or getting the concentric system.

John - new Koni's in the last 3 years.  Since they're 295's from previous owner that may be a factor.  Gonna have a closer look at the airbag mount tomorrow.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: John44 on March 24, 2021, 05:33:46 pm
I asked because we just saw one of Bob's (journey roam and explore)tires with a gouge that could have been mistaken for a
cupped tire.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: MisterEd on March 24, 2021, 06:12:00 pm
Could be a loose or failing RF wheel bearing. If you take it in for an alignment it might be a good idea to have both front wheel bearings checked for clearance/failure before doing the alignment.
Title: Re: Causes for Cupping on RF inside shoulder
Post by: Protech Racing on March 24, 2021, 09:35:26 pm
They track poorly  with loose bearings. Wander etc. Zero plus a pinch .