Found Koni FDS 8805-1010 shocks for $160.00 each, no tax, free shipping.
Ordered online with Pay Pal, shipped same day from Washington (which is right next door for us in Idaho).
Ultra RV Products (https://www.ultrarvproducts.com)
Chris
That's a deal...IF they have stock. I just replaced all 8 on my U300 and Wowwww drastic improvement.
Thanks for the link Chris!
Great price ordered 4 will do the fronts for now,
I did get hit for sales tax since I live in Washington.
I don't remember what I paid for my konis at shock warehouse but it was around 170 I think. Previously a member gave me a link to a company that claim they sold them. I ordered eight and never heard from them other than the initial email saying that they got my order. I gave him a credit card number they never billed me. I tried to get a hold of him multiple times to cancel it and when I couldn't get a hold of them I finally called my credit card company to dispute the charge that they never made LOL. The next day I ordered from shock Warehouse. My advice is order from shock Warehouse they have them in stock or at least they did the price was reasonable and they shipped out immediately other they came in two separate shipments
Bob can you share the name of the internet company that was not able to fulfill your order so other forum members don't make the same mistake?
Probably was WOTM...I did the same thing. I think it's a web scam. I never give out nmy CC info to any web sight I don't know. Only Pal Pal
They were like $120.00 each + shipping.
WOTM Racing - Wide Open Throttle Motorsports - Homepage (http://www.wotm.com/)
I looked at Shock Warehouse they are $167.00 each.
Ultra RV has them in stock, got tracking number, and invoice the same day. UPS shows them delivered today. $160.00 ea.
A buck, is a buck when you are retired...... :))
Cheers
Correct Chris. That's them. Yeah saving $56 on eight shocks is no small change I guess. Still after the experience with wotm racing I decided to go with a dependable company and was willing to spend the extra money to get them in time.
Received my Koni shocks today with no delay in delivery, 2 days from placing order.
Me too, got them in 48 hrs in Idaho right next door....Plenty of follow up emails with tracking ETC.
My new favorite store, very professional:
Ultra RV Products (https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/)
Chris
Yes sir, it's an internet scam store, I'm sure. When a place doesn't have a phone number it's not good, and a sure sign.
It is amazing how real it looks. You set up an account, it even prints an invoice with tax. If you click on the Facebook link, it goes nowhere.
I went through this with a satellite dish heater before Christmas from another internet scam. That is why I use Pay Pal to pay for stuff. If you have an issue, they take care of it faster then through CC company.
Chris
WOTM/Wide Open Throttle address and contact phone at BBB: Wide Open Throttle Motorsports, LLC | Better Business Bureau® Profile (https://www.bbb.org/us/az/tucson/profile/new-auto-parts/wide-open-throttle-motorsports-llc-1286-25044)
Pierce
WOTM: They may be out of business also.
When it came to "pay" it just had a place to put my email address for paying by Pay Pal. That was strange. But they never charged me.
Chris
Thinking about trying a set of Koni on my steer axle.. Seems like on deep dips my steer is lacking some cushion.. No unordinary bounce after coming out of the dip with the bilstein but does seem to use more airbag ..Bilstein is all I've had on 2 coaches so nothing to compare to. Pricey experiment but I've blown more.
Dub, not sure about Bilstein, but big difference from the original orange Koni's
That's funny twig and I were just discussing that on the beach here in Rocky Point about the differences between bilstein's and Koni.
we came to the conclusion at the only way of knowing would be someone who had had both. Why you can save a significant amount of money with the bilsteins over the koni I chose to go with the koni due to all the foretravel members that recommended them.
Most of us that have gotten the Konis had the Bilsteins and have been talking about a night and day difference for years,I got a kick out of Hans and Marjet the other day with a big difference comment,that's what we have been saying all along,I think it's a
mistake just to get half the shocks instead of all 8,the front and rear work together somewhat but to each his own.
Someone that has ran I 10 and coastal roads in Louisiana with both would be a testimony.
Well I just bought 4 Koni's I was planning on replacing my bilstein's up front for now, I could have had a more definitive answer.. Thinking about the high ratings maybe I'll put 2 in the front and 2 in the back and call it good. 8)
Doug
We will be twins! Not sure why, but our coach has a mix of 2 blistienes and two gold Koni's front back! It rides fine,
I bought 2 Koni's, so replacing the 2 front Bilsteins, then I'll move to the back later. I had already replaced two of my front bags, so replacing the other two at the same time.
Just trying to get some of the porpoising in big dips.Testing the Konis on the bench, they are really hard to extend.So hopefully that will do the trick.Also had a shock bolt, both front and back get slightly loose and rattle.
As long has the older Koni's are clean, and work fine, going to leave them. Will pull the bolts and possibly replace, for sure clean and lube them.
Btw way, I changed the prior two bags with the fenders on, thought I would try pulling the fenders, because the front air line/bolts are so tight to the step.
Only took 10 minutes to pull the fender.Probably only take double that time to reinstall, because of cleanup and reseal. In the long run, probably less time fighting it all, no dirt in my face.My shoulders will be happy too.
Chris
Not knocking you but how do you know the old Koni's are good?Wonder what Koni's opionion would be,I think the new ones will wear out faster if the old ones are not the same as far as dampening goes.My opionion is,if the coach runs ok with 4 it will run
better with 8.What are you lubing the nuts and bolts?
There is a phone number at the BBB site.
P
2nquestions on shocks
1 how can you tell if your shocks need replacing on a coach
2 My shocks say adjustable--howdo you adjust them
Chris
The orange Koni's are adjustable. Unhook the bottom push all the way up and turn. You will feel the clicks. Someone may tell you which way is stiffer but if you turn one way and count the clicks so you can get back where you started, trial and error will tell you what is looser and what is stiffer.
Reply to question 1,if you see any oil seeping from shock it's no good,remove shock from coach and manually compress/decompress,if you don't feel any dampening it's no good.If you can get your hands on a new shock the exact same
you can compare the 2 that way.If the shocks are 20 years or older they have to have some internal wear of the seals and components,just my opionions.Rule of thumb on a car is they are good for 40k miles,struts 80k.
From the horse's mouth (so to speak):
KONI | Adjustment Guides (http://www.koni.com/en-US/Cars/Technology/Adjustment-Guides/)
After replacing the front old konis with new ones then driving on the road from Salome to I-10 in Arizona I noticed an immediate improvement a major improvement porpoising was gone. The ride was much better also when I was on I-10 I didn't feel the bumps as much. Now that I have all eight shocks installed it'll be interesting riding back in April to see what the rears do. I personally would not leave old shocks on and put some new ones on. The new ones will fail sooner because if the old shocks are not good the new ones are going to be taken a lot of that load and you're going to have two different types of shocks fighting each other I think. Better to just bite the bullet and replace them all. Or keep the ones you have and adjust them. But I wouldn't mix them that's just me but your mileage may vary. Do what makes you happy.
John
They are not leaking. so by laying the shock on the bench, and feeling them as I pull and push them, is how I will test them. As long as they feel close to the same as the new one's I will be fine with that. They don't appear to be that old.
They have a lifetime warranty, so they must be pretty good. If I have any doubts, I will order 2 more. They are 1 day away, coach is in my shop.
The mounting bolts tend to wear, the sleeve in the rubber is stainless I believe, at least really hard. I have gone through a rear one rattling, and knocking, so I pulled the bolt, as it was worn.So I replaced with #8 new bolt. So if any look bad, going to replace. Other wise wire wheel and lube them up, put them back. BTW, the bolt is only close to shock hole, it's close, but not machined tight.
If you want to pop for 8 new Konis for me, I would love it. :D It's a 24 yr old coach. I have my limits on what I want to keep spending on it. It's pretty darn good, so just trying to get the most for the least out of it.
Chris
Old 2 koni shocks are not that old......They are not adjustable, they are Koni's, FDS gold ones.
If I have any question of their condition, I will replace them. But at $160.00 each, not really into throwing good parts away.
Quite frankly, the airbags are really not that bad. I may not replace back ones. I carry a spare and all the extra parts anyway
I have owned a ton of motorhomes and cars, replacing shocks has never made that much difference (sometimes I think it's just imagination, or wishful thinking), unless they are leaking, or really worn out (read 200K miles)
But I do hope I gain the improvement you recieved.
Thanks for your input
Chris
I also ordered four from Ultra RV. Delivered in two days.
jor
Thanks Guys for the information
Chris
UPDATE
So I pulled one of the front Koni's off, and tested it on the bench comparing with a new one.. They are as good as new. They appear to have build dates. So with that said, date on shock,equaling amount of miles figured, they have maybe 15K miles on them.
I will say, the bolts looked like new, they fit about the same, and are tight on both brand shocks (pulled a bolt off one of the Bilsteins). So forget what I said previously about bolts. I'am going to say the one I had trouble with in the rear, probably got loose and wore the bolt out.
Still going to pull bolts on other side, clean and lube them. You can see in the picture why.
Cheers
Chris
Like Chris said, Ultra is out of stock on the 8805-1010s. I emailed them and they advised me that they hoped to have more available at the end of April. I had ordered four which were delivered in two days. I decided to do all eight so I ordered four more from Shock Warehouse @ $167.57 with free shipping.
jor
Interesting, Jay told me they may get them by Thurs. I got my tracking number today for the two I ordered sunday.
Chris
As in a side note I drove for the first time with all eight of my shocks replaced in Mexico over topaes, which for those that you don't know are gigantic speed bumps designed to rip the undercarriage out of a regular car, and the ride was really nice. So if you think your ride is not good right now and you're wondering if whether you should upgrade to koni fsds after 20 years I would say yes it worked for me.
Will these 8805-1010s shocks fit 91 u300. I looked at koni web site and it does show anything for 91gv
Bowser,you may have to get the number off your existing shock and cross reference,try the shock warehouse site they may have more info.
Unless his shocks were recently replaced, they are likely to be "last generation" shocks, not FSD's. FSD's are better.
They now have a few of these back in stock. Just ordered 4. Thanks to all.
Tracy
I see this post is about 7-9 months old, so I am hopping to get an update from few of you. How is it so far? I am thinking about replacing my 18 years old (2003 GV 295) Bilstein shocks with Koni FSD.
I think "8805 1010 Koni Gold FSD RV Shock" Is the correct part number, but I am not 100% sure. I will look and get some data from the Bilsteins to make sure. Should I order from shockwarehouse.com ?
I am about to replace 2 airbags in the front passenger side and I have the Harbor Freight 12" spacers; I do have a bit of chalange to get to the 1 bolt on each airbag but the bolts for the shocks appears to be easier access. Any tips or tricks?
Thank you,
Al
Scott made some specialized tools for removing the airbags that look great.
Tools available
Scott
Scott,
What is the second from the right and one in the middle top square looking (white) tool? One in the middle bottom, is that 1-1/8 size? If you already wrote about this, please send me link. I looked at some of your posts but could not find it. I need to copycat :) your tools. Thank you, Al
Second from right is a tap and the white thing is a tool to remove the brass elbow.
Scott,'s the man..get his tools I used them they worked great..
Can someone confirm that Koni 8805-1010 shocks will fit my 01 U320 40' with a solid axle? I'm 99% sure the answer is yes but want confirmation before I pull the trigger.
Thanks all
KONI NA | List (http://www.koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmerica/Products/Motorhome/List/?t=KoniPartSearch&q=2001&m=627&mk=77&mt=9)
I just put (8805-1010) Koni's on the front of my coach. Looks like Elliott would use the same.
Thanks guys
This is something I've been wanting to do. Thanks for the reminder. I just ordered 8 from UltraRV for $180 ea.
I believe the correct Koni shock is FSD 8805-1010 not FDS.
I think you just transposed two of the first letters. I it do all the time !
Steven
I was just checking out your link, Brett, since Inwas considering it might be worthwhile to upgrade with some new shocks. When I run my coach year, 1995, it comes up with 0 search results. If I run a search on the Koni link for model years 1996, 1997, 1998 and select U295 for each it comes up w/the same shock recommended each time: 8805 1010. Any thoughts on why there's no result given for the 95 U295. It doesn't seem likely there were substantial changes enough between a 96 and a 95 to warrant a different shock for the chassis. Am I missing something?
Bill
Stony, your 1995 is like the 1995 I used to own which used 8805 1010.
Ya, no idea why Koni's website has a "black hole" in it.
You can always call them-- their North American office is in Kentucky.
(859) 586-4100
I have been working on my Koni FSD Shock and Continental Airbag install this week. I am about 85% done. I pulled all four wheel panels, because I still don't how the job could be reasonably done otherwise. Every bolt was a fight, but that's the joy of owning a motorhome old enough to drink. Of the 16 shock bolts, 4 of them needed to be cut off with a cutting wheel. My Milwaukee 1400 ft lb impact is a nice tool to have. For days prior to work, Several advanced applications of PB Blaster on each nut and bolt for both the bags and shocks does help a little.
I can hardly wait to take it out for a test drive.
The Milwaukee gun is handy. When I bought my coach the rear, rear bags had been changed
and I did the front rear wheel bags when the rear wheels were off. I did the right fronts with the
wheel on and took the wheel off to do the left front. With the wheels off it is real easy and the
advantage of the wheels off I also get to check the brakes.