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Title: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Larry Rubin on May 07, 2021, 08:34:08 am
What's best place to put a jack to lift rear side?
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Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Doug W. on May 07, 2021, 09:30:26 am
Using a bottle jack place it under axle behind inside tire.
No jack needed with stud piloted wheels just run inside tire up on a  board something like a    2 x 6
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: oldmattb on May 07, 2021, 10:05:44 am
Quote from: Doug W. –
No jack needed just run inside tire up on a  board something like a 2 x 6
If using bottle jack you would place it under axle behind inside tire.
Is a wheel without lug nuts stable enough to be safe?  Or do later models have dual lug nuts?
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: craneman on May 07, 2021, 10:10:43 am
Hub centered wheels on the op's question only have one nut keeping both wheels on. As posted above bottle jack on the axle near the wheels being removed. The opposite wheels will still have the Maxi brake holding them but a wheel chock belt and suspenders.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: DayDreamer on May 07, 2021, 10:12:12 am
Quote from: oldmattb –
Is a wheel without lug nuts stable enough to be safe?  Or do later models have dual lug nuts?
Our 1997 has "dual" lug nuts if you want to call it that.  The inner tire is still secured when you remove the outer nut. 
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: craneman on May 07, 2021, 10:17:40 am
Quote from: DayDreamer –
Our 1997 has "dual" lug nuts if you want to call it that.  The inner tire is still secured when you remove the outer nut.
There are 2 ways to identify which wheels you have. One is nut size Budd wheels use 1 1/2" socket and hub centered use 1 5/16" socket. The other is the stud sticking through the nut is square on the outside of Budd wheels and the stud is just threaded to the end of hub centered wheels.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Larry Rubin on May 07, 2021, 11:16:33 am
Lots of great info!  Thanks all.  8)
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on May 07, 2021, 02:03:19 pm
Don't forget the left/driver's side probably has left hand threads. Look at the threads or read the tiny writing on the end of the nuts. If you can run the inner tire up on a board that keeps the outside tire just barely touching the ground, it's easy to remove it and does not leave any aluminum filings in the threads of the studs.

Pierce
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: craneman on May 07, 2021, 03:32:15 pm
Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart –
Don't forget the left/driver's side probably has left hand threads. Look at the threads or read the tiny writing on the end of the nuts. If you can run the inner tire up on a board that keeps the outside tire just barely touching the ground, it's easy to remove it and does not leave any aluminum filings in the threads of the studs.

Pierce
Pierce.
The posters year coach has hub centered wheels and all threads are right handed.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: John Duld on May 08, 2021, 01:36:17 pm
I would use a floor jack under the center section and lift the rear of the coach. Probably faster than arranging the two by lumber and you wouldn't over load the other tire. Or a bottle jack under the center and jack stands under the axel as you go up.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Woody & Sitka on May 08, 2021, 02:34:23 pm
 :facepalm:  Larry, my advice, put the jack back where you found it, and call a tow truck or tire guy.  Jacking up your 17 ton behemoth is not for amateurs and you can get yourself injured or killed, and/or damage your coach.  Emphatically.....DO NOT follow any advice from anonymous interwebbers who don't even know what kind of wheel or lugs you have on your coach.  My $.02  Stay safe out there people!!!
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Protech Racing on May 08, 2021, 02:48:05 pm
The bottle jack goes at the far end of the trailing arm and the stacked 4x4 go under the trailing arm, just in front of the jack.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Protech Racing on May 12, 2021, 11:38:31 am
FWIW. Having some air in the bags and up off of the stops will reduce chassis twisting when you jack one corner .
The offending wheel also jacks easier.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: oldguy on May 12, 2021, 11:51:02 am
When ever I'm jacking up the coach I have the coach all the way up and its blocked. I need the coach up and blocked so I can
get under the coach safely. When pulling the wheels I also block the frame of the coach to the ground. I don't want any
accidents.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Chris m lang on May 12, 2021, 05:07:53 pm
I use 6 x 6 instead of 4 x 4 just me they don't roll as easy
Chris
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: oldguy on May 12, 2021, 06:06:46 pm
I use 10x12  and 8x10 blocks for blocking. Years ago a neighbor who worked in a saw mill brought home a whole pile of blocks
and his wife would let him keep them so he gave them to me.
Title: Re: Where put jack to remove rear outside tire?
Post by: Protech Racing on May 12, 2021, 06:25:45 pm
Oh yeah? Well I use 14x14 blocks.
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