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Title: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: leejrfla on August 22, 2021, 04:48:05 pm
Hello does anyone have a recommendation for replacement engine batteries for my coach? I currently have 3 group 34 Duracell batteries in place ... 93 U300 GV with a DD.

Thanks
Woodie
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: kb0zke on August 22, 2021, 04:53:17 pm
Just replaced mine yesterday. Bought what was in there, O'Reilly EXTJ batteries. The old ones were in there when we bought the coach in March of 2013. I drove the coach Friday, then disconnected the batteries completely. Checked and recorded the voltage on each one, then checked again yesterday morning. Battery #1 had lost nearly 2 volts overnight, #2 went down .12 volts, and #3 .1 volts. Don't know how long those old batteries were there, but they certainly worked well.
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: leejrfla on August 22, 2021, 05:04:33 pm
Thanks
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: wolfe10 on August 22, 2021, 05:10:39 pm
Measure you battery area-- you want the largest batteries that will fit.

Many Freightliner dealers have battery specials.  I believe (info not in front of me) they are group 31 batteries.

Example: http://www.fydafreightliner.com/fckimages/pdf/service-specials/Parts%26SvcSummer20Specials4PgFlyer_digital4.pdf

Group 31 $75.95 each. CCA 925 each.
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Wing-nRV1999 on August 22, 2021, 05:18:31 pm
I am needing to replace the Chassis Batteries and no one seems to know if you should use wet cell, Gel, AGM, or Lithium Ion.
Coach is a 2008 Nimbus CE 342 40'
I have also been told we have Group 31.
We also do not know how to access them.  Looks like we need to take the Tag Wheel off.
Thank you,
Robby
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Res777 on August 22, 2021, 05:30:37 pm
I am needing to replace the Chassis Batteries and no one seems to know if you should use wet cell, Gel, AGM, or Lithium Ion.
Coach is a 2008 Nimbus CE 342 40'
I have also been told we have Group 31.
We also do not know how to access them.  Looks like we need to take the Tag Wheel off.
Thank you,
Robby


When you figure it out can you let me know? I need to do the same thing. I can see one of mine in front of the muffler but it appears you have to access them from underneath. It looks like this coach came with Optima Red Tops. I have not seen any receipts for batteries. I haven't had the opportunity to crawl around under mine yet. I need to get some safety stands first. I have an 08' Nimbus 342 as well. But it's 42' not 40'.  But probably the same chassis layout.
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on August 22, 2021, 05:37:04 pm
Robby, LiFePO4 batteries are not a good choice for start batteries.  I have maintenance free AGM batteries in my coach, some will use flooded batteries but they require regular maintenance and very good ventilation.

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/fleet-heavy-duty/super-start-fleet-heavy-duty-battery-group-size-31/ssbl/agm31t?q=AGM&pos=0

Under $200 with the discount code on their web page.

Lots of choices out there.  I hve no idea where your start batteries are located.
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on August 22, 2021, 05:55:23 pm
If your batteries are difficult to access I would go with AGM.
My 3 batteries are very easy to access and the entire battery box is open to the outside, no ventilation issues. I chose wet cell, buy them at Costco. I have had zero issues for about 7 years.
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on August 22, 2021, 07:17:33 pm
Hello does anyone have a recommendation for replacement engine batteries for my coach? I currently have 3 group 34 Duracell batteries in place ... 93 U300 GV with a DD.
Thanks
Woodie
If you have the three start batteries close to the back bumper like our '93 U300, it's an easy choice for plug and play with Group 34 batteries. About $300 for all three maintenance free (not AGM) if you ask for a 10% discount (Autozone) Check weight as the heavier the battery, the better.

If you want more CCA, Group 31 are the ticket with 2850 to over 3500 CCA. I had to build a rack as the 31 series are longer but the same width. Available auto parts store or Craigslist/FB Marketplace. About $300 for a set of 3 in maintenance free (not AGM) Again, check the weight as the heaviest is the best. Our Autozone 31 weigh 60 lbs each. I do see other brands including Interstate advertised on CL for $60 to $80 each new, no tax. See my old post for how to build the rack, etc.

No need to spend more $$ as 34 or 31 conventional batteries will last 7 to 11 years. The cables connecting the batteries are the same for 34 or 31 series so no need to change cables for the three battery setup if using 31 series.

Change your block heater to the standard Detroit location under the AC compressor at the same time. It takes a different element but will heat the block so you get instant starts in winter or at high altitudes in sub freezing weather. You will have to collect the antifreeze in a container to make this change.

Pierce
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Doug W. on August 22, 2021, 07:37:36 pm
https://youtu.be/h7rTcBanpMk
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on August 22, 2021, 08:19:20 pm
Good video above. You also have to consider user reviews. The Optima Red Top starting batteries have had a lot of complaints on different sites in the last few years. OPTIMA Batteries Reviews | 937 Reviews of Optimabatteries.com | ResellerRatings (https://www.resellerratings.com/store/OPTIMA_Batteries_Direct)  No one wants to spend top $$ for a battery that's going to have a limited lifespan so also an important yardstick when considering replacing your batteries.

Walmart (Sam's Club) and Costco do have excellent reputations for honoring product warranties.

Pierce
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: red tractor on August 22, 2021, 08:42:36 pm
To answer the question of how to access the batteries it is done from underneath. After disconnecting the cables remove the top hold down bar and then lift them out and reverse to put in the new ones. Our 03 u320 had group 31 batteries but I changed some on a 2000 42 foot u320 with tag axle. It had Optima red tops and I had to replace with new red tops due to the size of the holder.
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Digger337 on August 23, 2021, 12:11:53 am
I am needing to replace the Chassis Batteries and no one seems to know if you should use wet cell, Gel, AGM, or Lithium Ion.
Coach is a 2008 Nimbus CE 342 40'
I have also been told we have Group 31.
We also do not know how to access them.  Looks like we need to take the Tag Wheel off.
Thank you,
Robby

Starting batteries need fast and high current and most fancy ( lion, Fe lion) batteries are more for running inverters where low to medium constant current is needed( AHrs). Maintenance free wet cell, gel or agms are more suitable for starting batteries (high CCA cold cranking amps). Many Foretravels seem to run group 31 red top Optimas.
Title: Re: New engine battery recommendation
Post by: Bob & Sue on August 23, 2021, 02:38:47 am
I second the wallyworld batteries.  They have an outstanding warranty.