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Title: When to walk away..
Post by: Caseman1 on February 08, 2022, 01:19:36 pm
Good morning! First off I want to thank the creators and the commenters on this group. Its probably one of the most helpful and interesting discussions I've read on any topic that may arise. I am a newbie to Foretravel and recently came across a deal that might be to good to be true. Did I mention i wasn't even looking for one? lol. My wife and I are looking at a 98' U320 40' no slides. It has the N14 Cummins, AH, Isuzu Gen. etc. The coach has 51,000 miles on it, the generator has 586 hours. all of the awnings when pulled out look brand new. It is super clean has been insulated shop kept. Located in Oklahoma. No rust other than what looks to be age resulted and very minor. Coach has had only 1 owner. According to the owner who I know and trust said when it was parked everything was working, winterized, fuel treated etc. Cons, It hasn't been tagged since 2011, It hasn't been used since that time as well. The engine has lost its prime to the fuel tank but will start when fuel is put in the filter until it runs out. The AH I know will probably need serviced. Alot of little things will need to be done like lubricating the bottom door hinges, servicing all once running, new tires and batteries etc. I'm heading down this weekend with my cousin and uncle who've owned several different Fortravels and currently own them and are nuts about them. They're going to plug it up and run it, prime the fuel system and see if we can get it to stay running etc. I'm pretty mechanically inclined and will do everything I can on my own or with their help. After all, my thoughts are if you learn to fix it then you know how to deal with it at a later point. I have looked at several for sale and see the prices ranging from about $50, 000 on up but that $50,000 price wasn't even close to looking like this one. The owner is not wanting anything near that price. I guess the bottom line and question I have for owners that own them and work on your own coaches is at what point, if at all, do you walk away or do you? I definitely don't have an open check book but kinda have a guesstimate on what I'm willing to spend. I guess I'm kinda like Elliot. I'm not afraid to tackle a job unless its wet wipes in the toilet! Ha! Thanks a bunch! Jason....
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: craneman on February 08, 2022, 01:34:59 pm
It has a M-11 not a N14. which is a good thing.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Caseman1 on February 08, 2022, 01:41:09 pm
Craneman, I did question that but the son thought it was the N14. Did they not use that engine back then?
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Bob & Sue on February 08, 2022, 01:43:09 pm
Welcome to the Foretravel family Jason.
We walked away until we found the perfect floor plan, color and drivetrain. If its the right price everything else fan be fiddled with. For me , the wrong floor plan is hard to overcome or change. DWMYH.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: propman on February 08, 2022, 01:51:04 pm
Welcome to our Jungle :-) If everthing checks out, as far as the story of the FT, and you are as you say able to handle it, deal with issues. Also you have $10-20K avalible after the purchase (may or may not spend it all) This could be one of the best FTs for sale out there to get and never look back. Good luck.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Pamela & Mike on February 08, 2022, 01:52:19 pm
Jason,
If you are looking for a non slide coach that is a good year. Just because it may have a little lot rot from setting if you are a tinkering kind of person things can be fixed for a reasonable amount. Now if you hire all your work done you will need a set of DEEP pockets as labor at $140+ an hour can run cost up a bunch.
The fuel problem is most likely a fuel line leak or a leak in a fuel filter. If the engine cranks when primed then these are the top of the suspect list. By the way a '98 has an M-11 not a N-14 they are close but 2 different hogs in the wallow.
Some will walk away if they see a little trouble with the basement floor and bulkhead interface but this is a fixable thing. There is a couple of members that have DIY this job. The basement floor is just a bolt on piece and can be changed out. Now to have a DIFY (do it for you) then there goes the $ flying out of the pocket syndrome.
The advantage to this coach is if it fits your needs and your wife like the interior this site is your best friend. If I was in your shoes looking for a coach I would sure get someone that is familiar with the FT brand to look it over with me and show me some of what I don't know.
You will sure need to budget for new tires, batteries, oil, filters, and things like this to get it back in good road ready shape.
Mike
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Dave Larsen on February 08, 2022, 01:56:19 pm
I would happily buy a "barn find" find like that.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: craneman on February 08, 2022, 02:01:23 pm
If you are looking for a non slide coach that is a good year. Just because it may have a little lot rot from setting if you are a tinkering kind of person things can be fixed for a reasonable amount. Now if you hire all your work done you will need a set of DEEP pockets as labor at $140+ an hour can run cost up a bunch.
The fuel problem is most likely a fuel line leak or a leak in a fuel filter. If the engine cranks when primed then these are the top of the suspect list. By the way a '98 has an M-11 not a N-14 they are close but 2 different hogs in the wallow.
Some will walk away if they see a little trouble with the basement floor and bulkhead interface but this is a fixable thing. There is a couple of members that have DIY this job. The basement floor is just a bolt on piece and can be changed out. Now to have a DIFY (do it for you) then there goes the $ flying out of the pocket syndrome.
The advantage to this coach is if it fits your needs and your wife like the interior this site is your best friend. If I was in your shoes looking for a coach I would sure get someone that is familiar with the FT brand to look it over with me and show me some of what I don't know.
You will sure need to budget for new tires, batteries, oil, filters, and things like this to get it back in good road ready shape.
Mike
Mike, Thanks for the advise! As I said in my post my uncle and cousin are going with me. No way I'd just jump in without another pair of seasoned eyes looking at it. They're both FT owners and have owned a few different ones. I think the non slide is a perfect fit for us. I'm pretty excited about it. Hopefully more excited after this weekend! I hope we can find the leak and put a temp fix on it until I can get it home and have my shop handy and replace the fuel lines. The AH and the fridge are what concerns me more than anything for some reason.. Maybe my priorities aren't accurate yet.. lol
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Kiwitex on February 08, 2022, 02:27:22 pm
Nothing you have said would make me want to walk away, but you have not seen it all yet. For sure, it will need a bunch of love and money spent on it, sounds like it hasn't had any maintenance to speak of in 10 years so bear that in mind. I would also look for rodent signs, those little things can do some hard to find damage, in hard to reach places. Bottom line is do you think you and your wife can be happy with fixing a whole bunch of things for the first couple of years? (then a normal amount of fixing after that) If you can, then it could be just the perfect coach for you. Good luck and Godspeed, hope it all works out for you. Either way, keep us informed please.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: dsd on February 08, 2022, 02:29:18 pm
I may be the wrong person to speak to be the one. I did exactly what you are taking about but across the United States. I would recommend you get some one competent to look at the coach. Mine was in way worse condition and hadn't been used since at least 2007. Everything that would of failed during regular operation will fail in the next year unless you park it. Even with the best coach its still 20+ years old and you will be all in if you take it on. I do all my own work. Looks great to me! Fuel lines Air bags Tires Brake service Engine service Transmission service All the fluids and filters Steering gear box reseal or rebuild I'm sure I've spent 10+K on parts Sounds like a great deal to me GREAT NEW HOBBY! Scott
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on February 08, 2022, 02:53:19 pm
Jason,
Here's the specs on the '98 models:
Media [ForeForums Foretravel Motorcoach Wiki] (https://wiki.foreforums.com/doku.php?id=through_the_years:1998)
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: hdff on February 08, 2022, 02:58:09 pm
Someone that has a foretravel may or may not have the ability to properly evaluate it more than just saying it looks good. I suggest hiring a competent inspector that is familiar with Foretravel's BEFORE you buy it. Could be the different between spending a lot or a whole lot to get it back on the road. Good luck!!!
Keith
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Realmccoy on February 08, 2022, 03:05:17 pm
If you are going to do some aesthetic rehab, change floor coverings, valences, upholstery work in addition to zero out the maintenance items I would think a post budget of +$20,000 would be the minimum. That would be you doing the maintenance and floors, valences and sending upholstery work out to a local shop with you delivering the couch, etc. to them and installing them yourself. MCD shades all around about $3,000. Upgrade to solar and lithium, sort through generator issues, and a couple issues like fridge or steering gear, then +$30,000 with a few things farmed out. It will become your new hobby and concubine for the next two years minimum. There will be a lot of satisfaction in the end and less than half of the cost of a new, mid range gasser. There will be regular maintenance and you will learn something about air systems you don't know.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: oldguy on February 08, 2022, 03:56:16 pm
The Wynn fuel filter has a pump in it and that should prime your engine. There is a prime button in the rear of the engine. Not getting any prime could be it needs new fuel lines. It been parked inside is a good thing. There will be things that need to be fixed and replaced. Sounds like a good find. Good luck.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Caseman1 on February 08, 2022, 04:00:53 pm
If you are going to do some aesthetic rehab, change floor coverings, valences, upholstery work in addition to zero out the maintenance items I would think a post budget of +$20,000 would be the minimum. That would be you doing the maintenance and floors, valences and sending upholstery work out to a local shop with you delivering the couch, etc. to them and installing them yourself. MCD shades all around about $3,000. Upgrade to solar and lithium, sort through generator issues, and a couple issues like fridge or steering gear, then +$30,000 with a few things farmed out. It will become your new hobby and concubine for the next two years minimum. There will be a lot of satisfaction in the end and less than half of the cost of a new, mid range gasser. There will be regular maintenance and you will learn something about air systems you don't know.
I can't see anything I would do to the inside. If I was smart enough I would post pictures of the inside but I can't figure it out.. There is no wear on the seats, couch, carpet etc.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Caseman1 on February 08, 2022, 04:04:33 pm
The Wynn fuel filter has a pump in it and that should prime your engine. There is a prime button in the rear of the engine. Not getting any prime could be it needs new fuel lines. It been parked inside is a good thing. There will be things that need to be fixed and replaced. Sounds like a good find. Good luck.
Thanks, Is that prime button located under the bed toward the bottom right? Or are you talking about the one beside the start button on the back? They didn't think it had a prime button. I'll definitely know after this weekend. It just seems like I read somewhere where a guy uses a handle and has one under the bed somewhere.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: dsd on February 08, 2022, 04:31:17 pm
Thanks, Is that prime button located under the bed toward the bottom right? Or are you talking about the one beside the start button on the back? They didn't think it had a prime button. I'll definitely know after this weekend. It just seems like I read somewhere where a guy uses a handle and has one under the bed somewhere.
Start button on back
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Pamela & Mike on February 08, 2022, 04:32:52 pm
That fellow has a coach with an 8.3 Cummins, but you are correct in your memory. I have watched him prime it that way in the past.
Mike
I've read so much on this forum the past few weeks.. My head is starting to hurt! It's definitely a lot of good info though!
Jason..
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Pamela & Mike on February 08, 2022, 04:47:51 pm
Jason,
We have some pretty serious tinkers here on the Forum that can come up with a fix, repair or work around. Most likely if you have a problem on a coach that age one of us has most likely went down that road. So either search or ask as this forum keeps some of us out of the domino hall taking all those old men's money.
Mike
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: oldguy on February 08, 2022, 04:59:43 pm
It is the button that says air purge. I think you need key on for it to work. When the fuel filters are change the air purge is used to bleed the filters.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Peter on February 08, 2022, 05:10:29 pm
CASEMAN 1 I too have a 98 U320 without slide. That was one of the reasons we purchased it is because it did not have a slide. Plenty of room for us and less worry and cost of fixing it. The outside was mint aside from a couple of decals that had worn off. The unit had 172,000 miles on it so we made sure the M11 was up to snuff before purchasing. The bulkhead was "ok" although this spring I am going to install more bolts (after referencing the Bulkhead repair- A comprehensive look in the technical area of the forum) to ensure it is good. We did have to service the AH and a few replacement fixes (3000.00) and had a couple extra things done - New front tires, Complete service including Transmission, new air bags all around, and some inside tweaks including new 43 inch TV in living room and storage bay. IT IS NEVER ENDING..... So in the first year we have spent north of 15,000 CDN dollars. Was it worth it? I would have to say yes...we both love the freedom the unit gives us to travel Keep in mind any unit of our year is going to cost dollars for replacement items and repairs. Budget for it and you will enjoy the unit! Can you post some pics of your coach please? Peter
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on February 08, 2022, 05:10:51 pm
My prime button is in the rear passenger side compartment next to the engine batteries(3).
I bought my 95U320 after a refrigerator fire. I was able to buy it for a substantial price reduction. I knew I would eventually NOT save any money but I could use the saved money (compared to a solid U320) to update EVERYTHING. You can expect that ALL the appliances probably need replacement. They may work but have timed out as far as expected use available. My floors have all been replaced, and the window treatments updated, new faucets, new washer and dryer, new residential refrig, a dishwasher, and interior lights upgraded to LED, new front TV (48"), new head liner, new mattress. As far as mechanical; New airbags, new steering box, bulkheads cleaned and through bolted front and rear, Air dryer rebuilt, Primary filter housing and priming pump replaced, Both A/C units replaced, Rear air chambers (cans) replaced, new Victron isolator, two Victron charge controllers, Victron Multi 3000 inverter/charger/, (10) L-16 Lifeline batteries, 2000 watts of solar, 3 new engine batteries, 6 new Michelin tires, endless odds and ends. I probably have at least the same amount of money invested now than if I had found a coach in fantastic condition to start with,but I have this coach EXACTLY how I want it. I still have a long list to go, Brakes, fuel lines, radiator and fans, rebuild my Primus heating boilers, fiberglass conditioning. Coach Bucks ($1000) seems the way we evaluate what we spend. I apply 1 or 2 coach bucks to EVERY project. I do ALL the labor myself. If I had to pay to have the labor done I would at least double my expenses, If that were the case I would be WAY over what the coach is worth. Even now, If I had a major breakdown (engine or transmission) I would have to consider selling the coach for parts. Be very realistic when evaluating the actual cost of buying a RV.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Elliott on February 08, 2022, 05:18:35 pm
All of these 20+ year old coaches need the same repairs and you're going to eventually pay for those repairs one way or another. If you buy a coach like this just make sure you budget plenty of time in the first year to sort through the issues. I stress and worry more than most so having done all the work I have on my coach has given me piece of mind every time we hit the road.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: dsd on February 08, 2022, 05:22:09 pm
My prime button is in the rear passenger side compartment next to the engine batteries(3).
I bought my 95U320 after a refrigerator fire. I was able to buy it for a substantial price reduction. I knew I would eventually NOT save any money but I could use the saved money (compared to a solid U320) to update EVERYTHING. You can expect that ALL the appliances probably need replacement. They may work but have timed out as far as expected use available. My floors have all been replaced, and the window treatments updated, new faucets, new washer and dryer, new residential refrig, a dishwasher, and interior lights upgraded to LED, new front TV (48"), new head liner, new mattress. As far as mechanical; New airbags, new steering box, bulkheads cleaned and through bolted front and rear, Air dryer rebuilt, Primary filter housing and priming pump replaced, Both A/C units replaced, Rear air chambers (cans) replaced, new Victron isolator, two Victron charge controllers, Victron Multi 3000 inverter/charger/, (10) L-16 Lifeline batteries, 2000 watts of solar, 3 new engine batteries, 6 new Michelin tires, endless odds and ends. I probably have at least the same amount of money invested now than if I had found a coach in fantastic condition to start with,but I have this coach EXACTLY how I want it. I still have a long list to go, Brakes, fuel lines, radiator and fans, rebuild my Primus heating boilers, fiberglass conditioning. Coach Bucks ($1000) seems the way we evaluate what we spend. I apply 1 or 2 coach bucks to EVERY project. I do ALL the labor myself. If I had to pay to have the labor done I would at least double my expenses, If that were the case I would be WAY over what the coach is worth. Even now, If I had a major breakdown (engine or transmission) I would have to consider selling the coach for parts. Be very realistic when evaluating the actual cost of buying a RV.
Same thing only different Initial purchase may be the easiest part cheapest part. What is the tow capacity for that year? What are your tow needs? If your paying for labor I would run away from all RV's. Scott
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: oldmattb on February 08, 2022, 06:41:28 pm
For me, the biggest question for a situation like this - what do I want to be doing.
If I want to be traveling, I would look for an up and running coach, maybe with a few minor repairs. I would be frustrated by failures and delays.
If I want a project, I would be all over this thing! It would be the adult equivalent of when I was 12 and dragged a broken lawnmower home.
Years ago, I bought a complete Beaver DP for $5000. It started and went into gear, but that was about all I could verify. I handed over the cash. Took a little work to make it move, and TONS of little stuff to make it right - $5000 of expenses including used tires. Sold it quickly for $20K. We already had a motor home, so it was a fun project without yearning or deadlines.
It is amazing how many problems can be solved by cleaning dirty ground connections!
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: kb0zke on February 08, 2022, 07:36:25 pm
If one looks only at the dollars no one would ever buy much of anything. The coach being discussed here sounds quite interesting. If ours was sold I might be tempted to look at it myself.
Yes, you are going to spend some money right away on new tires and batteries. Fuel lines may also be something that needs attention immediately, or maybe they can wait until next week. If you are able to change the oil and coolant where it sits you will be ahead of the game. Since it has been inside for 10+ years you may be able to drive it to a tire shop for new tires. I'd make sure that either the tires are on hand or that you can leave the coach at the tire place until they come in.
One thought: Oklahoma has been known to have an occasional tornado or two. Might want to make sure that it wasn't dropped there by the last tornado. <grin>
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Forewheelers on February 08, 2022, 08:05:06 pm
I don't know what your mindset is but every time I walk away from something, I have second thoughts and go back and get it or wish I had....... Bad philosophy but I'm stuck with it.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: D.J. Osborn on February 08, 2022, 08:16:09 pm
I don't know what your mindset is but every time I walk away from something, I have second thoughts and go back and get it or wish I had....... Bad philosophy but I'm stuck with it.
Interesting to see that I'm not alone!
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Townrestor on February 08, 2022, 08:50:50 pm
I have a horrible disease..it's called (I Can Fix That). Everytime it flares up costs me a lot of time and money. I thought when I got older it would get better but it only takes longer to go away. Larry
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Dub on February 08, 2022, 09:18:24 pm
I have a horrible disease..it's called (I Can Fix That). Everytime it flares up costs me Larry
Okay so you will be doing your own work. Id be all in if it has a 10k tow capacity. If i can do it, so can you. I think the thinking is over. Go see what it is👍👍 Scott
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Caseman1 on February 08, 2022, 11:14:41 pm
Okay so you will be doing your own work. Id be all in if it has a 10k tow capacity. If i can do it, so can you. I think the thinking is over. Go see what it is👍👍 Scott
Scott, I greatly appreciate all of your comments and text this evening! I'll definitely give it my best shot and keep your phone handy if I have a question this weekend!! Lol!
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: dsd on February 09, 2022, 10:21:13 am
Before you run the engine remove the desiccant filter it is old and will contaminate the entire air system with decomposing desiccant. I Just replaced the entire dryer assembly with a factor rebuilt unit. Dryer and desiccant filter. My plan to change the desiccant every year and will probably replace the dryer every three with a rebuilt unit. Will evaluate when due. Scott
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Elliott on February 09, 2022, 10:49:27 am
Jason here's where I'm at after my first year of ownership. My guess is this coach will need much of the same. Mine was in pretty good shape when I bought it and some of the work listed here had cheaper alternatives or was simply preventative.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Jason on February 09, 2022, 10:58:11 am
Outside of what what said, any engine that has not been started on a semi-regular cadence would concern me. Seals/gaskets will dry out and cause leaks. I talked to a guy who had a 20 year old Porsche with very low miles (30K or so) that had not been started in numerous years, he said it needed all the the seals/gaskets replaced because it was not started regularly. That was an engine out job, very expensive.
A 12YO engine would fall in this category IMO. It may be fine and not leak, but then again, it may.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: craneman on February 09, 2022, 11:15:30 am
Outside of what what said, any engine that has not been started on a semi-regular cadence would concern me. Seals/gaskets will dry out and cause leaks. I talked to a guy who had a 20 year old Porsche with very low miles (30K or so) that had not been started in numerous years, he said it needed all the the seals/gaskets replaced because it was not started regularly. That was an engine out job, very expensive.
A 12YO engine would fall in this category IMO. It may be fine and not leak, but then again, it may.
There are 2 coaches on the forum that had sit in the weather for years and the engines had no problems. An air cooled engine is not built like diesel truck engines.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Caseman1 on February 09, 2022, 11:28:44 am
Jason here's where I'm at after my first year of ownership. My guess is this coach will need much of the same. Mine was in pretty good shape when I bought it and some of the work listed here had cheaper alternatives or was simply preventative.
I appreciate that. That'll probably be my list plus tires and batteries. Jason
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: bigdog on February 09, 2022, 12:42:52 pm
One thought about the DIY. Saying that you need to DIY everything or go broke, Depends on if you are one of the lucky ones that already have an appropriately sized shop with all the proper tools in it.
I'm one of those that doesn't own a piece of property big enough to build a shop and fill it with tools. So the nearly $40K we have spent on coach issues and maint. in our 6 yrs of ownership (performed by proper mechanics) is an absolute pittance compared to buying some land, building a barn and filling it with tools.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: craneman on February 09, 2022, 12:54:01 pm
Some of us were lucky enough to already have land, shop and tools before coaches came into our lives. Without that advantage might not even have a coach.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: wolfe10 on February 09, 2022, 12:57:32 pm
And, some of us who do all our work do it out of a regular commercial storage facility with our own lockable stall and far fewer tools. Works just fine if you have the desire.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: bigdog on February 09, 2022, 01:12:33 pm
And, some of us who do all our work do it out of a regular commercial storage facility with our own lockable stall and far fewer tools. Works just fine if you have the desire.
NONE of our local storage facilities allows major maint. I can and do inside and minor outside work at my storage location. But putting it on safety stands and changing tires, doing brakes, oil changes etc. will result in loosing the spot. Our local city code also forbids curbside major work.
There are only 12 inside climate controlled RV stalls in all of the Walla Walla area and about the same for covered outdoor spots. I know the owner of this climate controlled facility. And it will cost me $485 per month (each spot has power) but again. No major maint allowed.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Dub on February 09, 2022, 02:56:40 pm
Let us know how this turns out Jason,
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: EddieNel on February 09, 2022, 03:30:26 pm
Be sure and post some pictures. Agreed with Elliott. The more you do yourself the more you will learn. I'm also new to Foretravel. Bought my coach in November and all I can say is that everyone here has been so helpful. Many have pm'd me their phone numbers just in case I had a question or help. If the price is right then give her some love and hit the road!
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Dave Larsen on February 09, 2022, 07:53:31 pm
Some of us were lucky enough to already have land, shop and tools before coaches came into our lives. Without that advantage might not even have a coach.
I doubt I would have ever bought one.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 09, 2022, 09:02:03 pm
Offer him $25,000 and get it cleaned up on you dime. He wants to get rid of it, not make a profit. You will do him a favor and yourself. These are good coaches and will survive sitting.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Rolling Dream on February 09, 2022, 11:34:46 pm
Did you skip the shocks or were they already done ? just bags and shocks I bought to DIy are half your expenditure . Lucky I had new tires already, Plan to pull the wheels and do brakes, bags , shocks , wheel seals soon, also the dryer .
Jason here's where I'm at after my first year of ownership. My guess is this coach will need much of the same. Mine was in pretty good shape when I bought it and some of the work listed here had cheaper alternatives or was simply preventative.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Elliott on February 10, 2022, 10:39:39 am
Did you skip the shocks or were they already done ? just bags and shocks I bought to DIy are half your expenditure . Lucky I had new tires already, Plan to pull the wheels and do brakes, bags , shocks , wheel seals soon, also the dryer .
If you have the option definitely do shocks while you're doing bags. I onesie-twosied my bags over a few different jobs for reasons that were out of my control, so they're still on my list. I'll probably have a shop do them though... I have no interest in pulling the wheels on my coach and I'd rather not remove the fenders again.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: kb0zke on February 10, 2022, 07:39:51 pm
Yes, definitely do bags and shocks together. May not save you any money, unless the shop is charging you for actual work time. WILL have happier mechanics. We did the bags one year and the shocks the next. Some of the bags were kind of in the way of the shocks.
FWIW, seven of the eight bags were changed in about 15 minutes/bag. The eighth one made up for the other seven. They finally ended up cutting the old bag up to get it out of there. The new bag must have been paying attention because it went right in without any fuss.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Caseman1 on February 11, 2022, 09:29:22 pm
Ok, tomorrow is the big day! Say a prayer for us that all goes well! I'm going in thinking the worst but lord, just know by now I know nothing is free and I've definitely payed my dues over the years! For almost a 50 year old cut me a break!! I know things are going to have to be fixed but please let this be the one!
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: EddieNel on February 12, 2022, 10:11:55 am
Ok, tomorrow is the big day! Say a prayer for us that all goes well! I'm going in thinking the worst but lord, just know by now I know nothing is free and I've definitely payed my dues over the years! For almost a 50 year old cut me a break!! I know things are going to have to be fixed but please let this be the one!
Good luck! Post up some pictures when you get a chance.
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: nbluesky on February 13, 2022, 02:31:32 pm
I'm quite intrigued! Please post an update with some pictures!
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Kiwitex on February 18, 2022, 08:16:32 am
Inquiring minds want to know.... How did it go?
Title: Re: When to walk away..
Post by: Dave Cobb on February 18, 2022, 10:57:56 am
Oh my, I've just read this thread. Where oh where is the rest of the story??????