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Title: Catastrophic fuse size
Post by: nitehawk on March 03, 2022, 06:45:48 pm
OK, I intend to have 200W solar panel output on the roof of the coach at 26V this spring. Just enough to keep the batteries charged I hope.
Should I install catastrophic fuses? What size. if any?
Title: Re: Catastrophic fuse size
Post by: Dakota Slim on March 03, 2022, 07:58:24 pm
I'd say 30 or 40 amp -- 1 on the hot line between the panels and your solar controller and one between the controller and the batteries. (another between the batteries and the inverter if you connect one)
Title: Re: Catastrophic fuse size
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 03, 2022, 08:07:13 pm
I installed a 250 amp fusible link down where the solar goes into the battery connection at the electrical bus. I also have breakers up where the solar goes into and also out of the controller. You can't be too safe when a lot of amps are available. Northern Arizona Sun and Wind and Midnite tech recommended this.

Arrows point to the fusible link.

Pierce
Title: Re: Catastrophic fuse size
Post by: dsd on March 03, 2022, 11:09:42 pm
Volts times  Amps equals Watts, Watts divided by voltage equals amps. 200w divided by 12v equals 16.67 amps. 25 amp fuse would protect. I think solar panels can be shorted out (please double check) and not be damaged.
Scott

is it ok to short circuit a solar panel - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=is+it+ok+to+short+circuit+a+solar+panel&client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&sxsrf=APq-WBveg3sk2ZnG4DXE77KPCeSYYRUAyw%3A1646367167520&source=hp&ei=v5EhYsLdGdrEkPIPwImL2Aw&iflsig=AHkkrS4AAAAAYiGfz-2bhkarMHgkbWmDcIZu5KCa5eqV&oq=can+solar+panels+be+shor&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYAjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzIFCAAQhgMyBQgAEIYDOgcIIxDqAhAnOgQIIxAnOgcILhDUAhBDOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARDRAzoFCAAQgAQ6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARCjAjoICAAQgAQQsQM6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOggILhCxAxCDAToLCC4QgAQQxwEQrwE6BwgAELEDEEM6CwgAEIAEELEDEMkDOgUIABCSAzoICC4QgAQQ1AI6EQguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDENQCOggIABCxAxCDAToLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BQgAELEDUMCYAViHlAJgiM4CaAVwAHgAgAGJAYgB2BSSAQUxNi4xMJgBAKABAbABCg&sclient=gws-wiz)

No - you will not damage a solar panel by shorting it. Solar panels are designed to be continuously operated at very very close to their short circuit current. A good quick test of a solar panel is to run it short circuited into an ammeter.

is it ok to open circuit a solar panel - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=is+it+ok+to+open+circuit Yes. It does not hurt them to be disconnected—open circuited. Leaving anything out in the sun and rain will cause eventual degradation. +a+solar+panel&client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&sxsrf=APq-WBvdnuGsk_yivY3Vmic92oSFv20ieQ%3A1646367212388&ei=7JEhYqKnF8fAkPIP6K-YcA&ved=0ahUKEwiizfTmy6v2AhVHIEQIHegXBg4Q4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=is+it+ok+to+open+circuit+a+solar+panel&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BwgjELACECc6BQgAEIYDOgYIABAHEB46CAgAEAgQDRAeSgQIQRgASgQIRhgAUNAOWKk0YK1CaAFwAXgAgAGLAYgB7gmSAQMzLjiYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz)

Yes. It does not hurt them to be disconnected—open circuited. Leaving anything out in the sun and rain will cause eventual degradation.
Title: Re: Catastrophic fuse size
Post by: Old Toolmaker on March 04, 2022, 10:29:33 am
Trying to amplify Mr. Davidson's remarks, a circuit breaker can carry continuously about 75% of its rated current.  That being said, for protection multiply your maximum current by 1-1/3 and choose accordingly.