Foretravel Owners' Forum

Foretravel Motorhome Forums => Foretravel Tech Talk => Topic started by: Lt403 on June 16, 2022, 01:58:23 pm

Title: Shocks & Tires
Post by: Lt403 on June 16, 2022, 01:58:23 pm
Hi everyone,
Well, my tires are now 7 years old. Time to replace. Currently have Michelins.

A few days ago on our way home we were sitting behind the Cracker Barrel, parked uphill with slight off cambor . HWH Was-dumping the front and raising the rear.
When I turned off the ignition it was still doing its thing.
About 10 minutes later we heard and felt a bang. I thought someone hit us from the rear.
I went outside and no one was around so I started looking under the coach and found the left rear shock mount was broken at the bottom and the shock was just hanging.

My shocks are now almost 6 years old and have approximately 45K miles on them . Is it time to replace the shocks? The shocks are KONI GOLD FSD

Thanks
Frank
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: Protech Racing on June 16, 2022, 02:10:15 pm
The airbags pumped to the stop and broke the shock?
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: Lt403 on June 16, 2022, 02:16:03 pm
The coach was leveling itself when it happened . I would've thought that it would've stopped before it would put that much pressure on the shock.

The shock is not broken it's the mount for the shock on the coach that broke. Need to re-weld the broken part back to the frame.
At this time I do not know if the shock is damaged.
How long are these shocks supposed to last?
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: Kiwitex on June 16, 2022, 02:30:54 pm
How long are these shocks supposed to last?
I would expect much longer than 45k, closer to 100k, but I'm an optimist by nature.
Really surprised that leveling could create this much force though, how much of a camber was the coach on?
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: Lt403 on June 16, 2022, 02:33:12 pm
I really don't know but I was in the back of the Cracker Barrel parking lot Just north of Roanoke Virginia
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: bigdog on June 16, 2022, 03:04:56 pm
Might want to also check out the HWH as there is an 'excessive slope' function that keeps it from leveling when it doesn't have the extension or contraction distance to come to level.  For the HWH to pump it up to the point of tearing off your shock mount is nuts. Even if the shock mount had a small crack in it. It still should not have put that much force on it.

The FSD shocks do have a limited lifetime warranty. I doubt that the HWH abusing them is covered though.
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: dsd on June 16, 2022, 03:38:42 pm
Fatigue on the shock mount. The better your shocks are working the more they load the mounts. Definitely would be a good time to look at all of them closely. Look at the crack part and see if it happened all at once or if it's been happening over the last couple of months. Clean or dirty at crack? Generally shocks decrease in there resistance and perform less as they age.
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on June 16, 2022, 03:58:54 pm
Konis or Bilsteins don't have a maximum lifespan. Unless they develop a leak or the coach starts wearing tires or the handling changes, they are good. 450K on one of our MBZ and 200K plus on others including a Toyota with shocks working fine. Our U300 at about 120K is also handling well. Gone are the days of OEM shocks going bad after 20K miles. Just check for leaks although some seepage is normal and watch for tire wear, etc.

Pierce
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: BrAndT on June 16, 2022, 11:28:27 pm
It may have been caused by a faulty shock occasionally freezing up (my first guess)...shocks can go bad the day they are installed or 80K miles later...or could simply be a stress fracture, or even a slightly imperfect weld from the factory that has taken it's sweet time in taking its vengeance. :D
Me, I would be looking askance at that particular shock.  Replacing that one shock would be fairly cheep insurance, but I never suggest replacing a single shock unless it is almost new (infant mortality)...go ahead and replace both left and right shocks.  You can keep the "good" one as a hot spare if you want.

Cheers, Bruce
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: BrAndT on June 17, 2022, 12:12:35 am
Another thought; check the bolt in the failed shock.  If it is at all loose, that can be a big contributor as a loose shock will apply lateral stresses on the shock bolt, and, therefore, the shock mount; trying to twist it out.
If the shock bolt was loose, that was probably the issue.  If not, my previous post stands as my best advice.
Title: Re: Shocks & Tires
Post by: Lt403 on June 17, 2022, 06:11:27 pm
Thanks for everyone's input.