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Title: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Partimefriend on August 19, 2022, 02:57:12 pm
Can anyone tell me if this bulkhead is bad? I know it's hard to tell from one photo but I'm wondering what your first impression of this is.  This is a photo from the coach that I'm looking at.  I am going to get more photos later and will post those up.  This is the front and rear bulkheads.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Partimefriend on August 19, 2022, 07:41:04 pm
Another photo after cleaning looks a lot Better
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: dsd on August 19, 2022, 09:38:00 pm
Put a 1/2 inch box end wrench on them and see if any of the heads are about to pop off. Not a long wrench and not super heavy on them.

Doesn't scream of any issues but as you said it's photos
Scott
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Pamela & Mike on August 19, 2022, 10:08:16 pm
If you look close at the first pic. (of the rear bulkhead) that was posted it looks like someone installed 3 feel good through bolts. Those black plugs you see (in the basement skin) are there so you can get to the nut that is hid under them. Those through bolts and plugs were not OEM. So someone has been trying to keep a check for an issue.

Mike
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: oldguy on August 19, 2022, 10:10:34 pm
It sure cleaned up nicely. It looks good to me.
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: turbojack on August 20, 2022, 07:28:43 am
We need the rest of the story.  You cleaned up the bulkhead on a coach you do not own?

Based on the pictures it looks like they have been worked on before. Maybe rebuilt?
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Geodmann on August 20, 2022, 10:02:20 am
I don't necessarily agree that the bulkhead in the picture has been worked on before or that the thru bolts were added.  As was discussed on a previous post many of us have these bolts in addition to the Rolok bolts and they are in a specific pattern and location which is the same on several of our coaches and all have the same Heyco knockout plugs in the fiberglass belly skin.  I believe these bolts to be added by the factory starting somewhere around the model years 2001-2002.  Possibly in response to previous bulkhead failures?  In any event I think the bulkheads shown in the picture are in very good condition with no evidence of rust jacking at all. Probably this coach has never had a wet bay leak which I believe is the primary culprit of rusting of the basement floor structure.  I do plan to remove all of my Rolok bolts and replace them with grade 8 through bolts in the near future.
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: rbark on August 20, 2022, 04:42:02 pm
Our 2003 U320 has those same plugs and believe they are original also.
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: red tractor on August 20, 2022, 05:24:08 pm
Our 03 also had those bolts and plugs.
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: D.J. Osborn on August 20, 2022, 05:26:29 pm
Our 2003 U320 has those same plugs and believe they are original also.

Can anyone provide the details (such as model number) for those plugs?
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Elliott on August 20, 2022, 05:33:25 pm
Can anyone provide the details (such as model number) for those plugs?
You can order them from FOT directly, or you can just get them off Amazon, which is what FOT actually recommended when I only needed a couple. As I understand it, the size of the hole can vary so you need to measure first.

1 3/4" 1.75 inch Flush Mount... Amazon.com: 1 3/4" 1.75 inch Flush Mount Black Plastic Body and Sheet Metal... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PBE2UW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share)
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: D.J. Osborn on August 20, 2022, 05:43:29 pm
You can order them from FOT directly, or you can just get them off Amazon, which is what FOT actually recommended when I only needed a couple. As I understand it, the size of the hole can vary so you need to measure first.

1 3/4" 1.75 inch Flush Mount... Amazon.com: 1 3/4" 1.75 inch Flush Mount Black Plastic Body and Sheet Metal... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PBE2UW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share)


Are those self-sealing against water intrusion or is some additional sealant required?
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Geodmann on August 20, 2022, 06:10:31 pm
Heyco #2773.  1 3/4" diameter.  These are not "liquid tight" but they don't need to be because they're mounted on the bottom of the assembly.
They fit snugly into a 1 3/4"" diameter hole and gravity will prevent any water from entering.  Using liquid tight plugs on the bottom of the belly pan is counterproductive because it would prevent any moisture from working its way out.  The Heyco plug is what the factory used and it's what I will use.  They can be purchased off Amazon or Mouser.com
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: D.J. Osborn on August 20, 2022, 06:45:45 pm
Heyco #2773.  1 3/4" diameter.  These are not "liquid tight" but they don't need to be because they're mounted on the bottom of the assembly.
They fit snugly into a 1 3/4"" diameter hole and gravity will prevent any water from entering.  Using liquid tight plugs on the bottom of the belly pan is counterproductive because it would prevent any moisture from working its way out.  The Heyco plug is what the factory used and it's what I will use.  They can be purchased off Amazon or Mouser.com

How many plugs did the factory use at each bulkhead location?
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Elliott on August 20, 2022, 06:46:24 pm

Are those self-sealing against water intrusion or is some additional sealant required?
Yes, water tight as-is. Took a mallet to tap in
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Partimefriend on August 20, 2022, 10:58:16 pm
This is a 2001 u320 Coach that i was looking at for sale on the west coast. It is in very nice condition but a little more than I wanted to spend. Came very close to going out and buying it. Being so far away and finding/ getting inspection done was just getting more than I wanted to spend. Still for sale if somebody is interested. DeMartini RV Sales - New and Used Motorhome Dealer | Detail | Vehicles (http://demartinirv.com/vehicles/detail/4445#img-53221)
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on August 20, 2022, 11:36:56 pm
That coach is right in our town. We drive by the place every day. They must have spent over a million for just the concrete for their huge lot.. Glad to take a look if anyone is interested. They have the reputation for selling good products. An old family here in gold country, they have a pharmacy, etc. They are now known as the repo king of the U.S.

Pierce
Title: Re: Bulkhead picture
Post by: dlkj07 on August 23, 2022, 10:07:27 pm
I also live in Grass Valley...I was spending money I shouldn't be in their parts dept so I poked around this the other day since it's the exact model and year of mine though didn't go inside because it was locked.

I would also check it out for someone who is interested...