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Title: Front axle actual weight
Post by: dsd on September 21, 2022, 09:38:19 pm
So I've been contemplating building a trailer using a 1998 U320 front axle. Before I start collecting parts I was thinking someone may know the actual unsprung weight of the axle and support structure attached to it up to the air bag mounts.  May be too heavy affecting usable carrying capacity Tires and wheels can be calculated. Any input is appreciated
Scott
Alcoa  22.5 wheels 45lbs each
Tires toyo m177 295/75r22.5 weight 80 lbs each
Title: Re: Front axle actual weight
Post by: MarkC on September 22, 2022, 01:23:06 pm
Scott, whether your trailer project works out or not, I am always in awe of what you attempt. Everything you tackle amazes me!
I wish I had half of your skill set.  Keep it up, I look forward to seeing your accomplishments.
Title: Re: Front axle actual weight
Post by: Olde English on September 22, 2022, 02:25:43 pm
Scott I'm thinking that at 250# plus the weight of the axle another 250# or more, maybe the rear axle from a olds or caddy from the 60/70s.
Title: Re: Front axle actual weight
Post by: craneman on September 22, 2022, 04:10:03 pm
Scott if you are going to the Q and still don't have an answer I can bring my 5,000 lb. scale I used on the crane. Hook one end to hoist, bucket etc. other to the rear end. My guess without tires and wheels about 750 lbs. Then bring it back to the Q in '24
Title: Re: Front axle actual weight
Post by: dsd on October 03, 2022, 10:52:29 pm
Scott if you are going to the Q and still don't have an answer I can bring my 5,000 lb. scale I used on the crane. Hook one end to hoist, bucket etc. other to the rear end. My guess without tires and wheels about 750 lbs. Then bring it back to the Q in '24
I probably could calculate out the sub structure and take a decent guess at the mount hardware. Would be a problem if I have one in hand, just  trying to get a guesstimate weight.
Title: Re: Front axle actual weight
Post by: craneman on October 03, 2022, 11:48:14 pm
Scott, do you have access to an axle? How about one of the rv salvage yards and find out shipping weight.
Title: Re: Front axle actual weight
Post by: Protech Racing on October 06, 2022, 11:56:14 am
My axle
Naked aboutv250
Hubs 80? drums about 80 each
So maybe 400 plus tire assembly's

My baby trailer has an olds toronado stubs Chevy truck brakes
Single axle with no springs.  Had it about 40 yrs tows 3200 easy.
Many jag e types and Tvr's
Title: Re: Front axle actual weight
Post by: dsd on October 06, 2022, 02:56:01 pm
Been thinking about this trailer during the trip. I like the way our front axle assembly is laid out but dont want too loose caring capacity either because of its weight. There is that u320 in Arkansas and many more in the junkyards but if they are complete is unknown. I do know i want air brakes and suspension. Outboard air bags definitely are a way to go. Drop axle would be nice. Me and the owner of  the wedding event were talking and he mentioned that all the 53 foot trailers were frameless and very light which would make sense. Cutting one of them down to 20-26 feet may be a option. Would want to drop it down with drive on fender wells including upper bag mounts inside box. Loose the inside space but dropping down to a usable level is a must. May effect the design too much though?  Being frameless may work to my advantage?  Needing to stay under 10K GVW is hard to do for me loaded.
A bored mind is a costly problem.
Scott