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Title: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: Mark D on October 07, 2022, 11:24:44 pm
I had a very fortunate breakdown coming back home from Ian evacuation...

Every morning predeparture I check my tire pressures and every time they are correct.  Except that one time the one inner dual lost all the air.  Of course I didn't check that time because I was just moving the coach across the yard and the tire unseated from the bead.  Now I had to call someone in with a tool that I now know you can buy cheaply called a bead blaster to pop the tire back onto the rim.  But in all honesty I don't check much else.  I do a cursory look under the coach for puddles and head out.

This time out we had a 3 day long drive and on the second day I found a coolant leak.  The 2.5" silicone hump coupler (as it's called) connecting the water pump inlet to the transmission cooler sprung a leak.  I detected this with my nose because I was walking around the hot coach applying bug spray due to copious ant hills.  Upon further inspection I noticed the coolant overflow was empty.

But had I not walked around I quite likely wouldn't have noticed this because my morning check involves looking for puddles (which this didn't leave one).  The low coolant light didn't come on the previous day and the temp never budged off 180.  We simply didn't leak enough coolant to detect it that way.  I would have set off and inevitably had to shut down on the side of the highway.  Instead I got to stealthily repair the problem in the cool morning on a cold engine hoping the KOA staff didn't happen to notice me filtering 6 gallons of expensive OAT coolant for reuse.  (They noticed but they took pity on me and didn't say anything).  The hump coupler wasn't available locally but I had one in my stash from my previous coolant coupler replacements ~8 years ago when I bought the coach.  The old takeoff was super stiff and when I squeezed it several cracks appeared on the inside.  The drive home was a nervous one!

The moral of the story is, besides your tire pressures, always look at your hydraulic oil sight glass (steering or fan leak), coolant overflow and coolant box sight glass before leaving.  You can use a flashlight through the engine vent and see all of them without cracking the engine door open.  Also the other moral of the story is, save everything you ever replace during maintenance and carry it with you.  Along with all of your tools haha.

Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: Geodmann on October 08, 2022, 09:39:19 am
Mark was your 2.5" hump coupler a silicone coupler or was it oem rubber?  If silicone, did it split?  I was under the impression that the silicone hoses were more durable than the rubber hoses.
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: Grey Wolff on October 08, 2022, 12:27:35 pm
I have a very detailed checklist I go by before I drive off in our coach. I also have a membership to Coach Net along with  a fully stuffed tool box. I also too stock up on parts as well. I know I can't prepare for every eventuality on the road but by taking these simple steps it helps me feel somewhat confidant driving down the road.
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: Mark D on October 08, 2022, 05:20:24 pm
Mark was your 2.5" hump coupler a silicone coupler or was it oem rubber?  If silicone, did it split?  I was under the impression that the silicone hoses were more durable than the rubber hoses.

Actually it might not be silicone.  Gates 23562.  It has a silicone like construction though.  The lower pipe kind of goes into the hump area and rubs a bit.  It split there.
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: "Irish" on October 09, 2022, 09:23:57 pm
Pre Flight  checks are well worth the two minutes it takes: look up, down and around. just before leaving the Branson Grandvention a beautiful Foretravel was leaving the campground with its very expensive satellite dish up and circling looking for signal, funny but could have been costly. We ran and stopped the coach. All ended well!
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: MarkC on October 09, 2022, 09:35:24 pm
As I have gotten older and the memory is not what it used to be, I have developed a comprehensive Pre-Flight Check List.  I can't tell you how many times, I have missed something trying to do it from memory.  It could be something minor, or it could be something expensive like David mentioned above.  A list with a walk around, for me, is a great tool.

I also have an "Arrival" list that I follow when setting up.  I have them laminated to last.
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: juicesqueezer on October 10, 2022, 08:40:57 pm
Pre Flight  checks are well worth the two minutes it takes: look up, down and around. just before leaving the Branson Grandvention a beautiful Foretravel was leaving the campground with its very expensive satellite dish up and circling looking for signal, funny but could have been costly. We ran and stopped the coach. All ended well!

David, I am surprised it did not stow.  Most are set up on the ignition and when turned on, the sat stows.  At least mine does!  And yes, they are expensive, our new Winguard Traveler dish was just over $2400.  Getting ready to pull the plug on the Starlink system!  There are 6 RV's here in Wildwood that have the dish up and running.  I will be asking questions!!!!
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: TGordon on October 11, 2022, 12:16:45 am
Getting ready to pull the plug on the Starlink system!
If I may ask? Why.....
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: Mark D on October 11, 2022, 09:27:16 am

Based on the context I think he meant pull the trigger.  And the answer to that is obvious.  Starlink is fast and has huge bandwidth.
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: Protech Racing on October 13, 2022, 02:13:02 pm
Here's mine  .
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: juicesqueezer on October 13, 2022, 07:35:10 pm
Yes, should have said it that way, but will be going the Star Link route!
Everyone I have spoken with loves theirs and say it was a real game changer.  Dish, $599, Flag Pole Buddy with dish adapter $179 and service $135 a month for RV service!
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: "Irish" on October 16, 2022, 10:59:23 pm
Pre flight?
Before leaving on our last trip,  my "pre" noted the engine radiator tank could use a quart of coolant. Funnel required, coolant added, all well and drove 580 miles to Branson for the Grandvention.
Open the engine bay to ask someone a question, what do I see but my coolant tank cap sitting on the black box beside the coolant tank where I stupidly left it.
These old coaches must really have a smoother ride than I thought !
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: oldguy on October 17, 2022, 12:26:58 am
I've done the same and the cap was still there.
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: Dub on October 17, 2022, 11:09:15 am
I check  and adjust tire pressures before leaving the barn on a trip, for the next 2 weeks that's the last time I put a pressure gauge on one BUT , I keep a hammer in a propane bay drawer and EVERY time we stop in a days running I bump my tires, probably more than the average fella. I'm not perfect by any stretch but after 50 years of having over the road trucks I know what a tire sounds like when hit with a hammer 3 times and the air pressure is normal. After a couple weeks on the road and sitting at a campground much of that time I go back to my gauge and down on one knee and check myself. I always instructed my drivers to bump tires at least 5 times in a days run, some did some didn't the ones that didn't always got discovered and talked to. We checked the tires with a gauge every 15000 miles pm service. I will add this, be careful each time you take a gauge off a valve stem and follow it up by a quick couple jabs to be sure valve core seated completely. More times than a few I've seen a core be caused to leak by the angle the stem was when the gauge was taken off of it. I will add that I will put a gauge on my steer tires more often than that. Pay attention to your tires and notice how they sound when hit with a claw hammer, equipment will talk to you if you will listen. Sounds, smell and visual has always been important to me in running equipment.
Title: Re: Friendly Reminder - Preflight Checks
Post by: oldguy on October 17, 2022, 11:54:59 am
When I stop after driving for a while I put my hand on each tire and feel for heat but cold the
hammer is the only indicator other then using a gauge to check the tire.