Hello,
I'm looking at an 06 pheonix with the 600 hp Cummins. I love the fact that they have disc brakes, and the floor plan with four slides is nice. Is there anything in this year model I need to be aware of? I've also heard of problems with the x15 motors ( mostly the 650 hp). Any help or info would be appreciated.
Garrett
Garrett,
Can't help you with info on the Phenix - never even stepped inside one. Others will respond to that subject.
As for the engine, found a few old threads that probably won't make you very comfortable...
Cummins ISX valve problem (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=38140)
2009-ish Cummins ISX valve problem (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=24334)
Cummins ISX broken valve in #6 - iRV2 Forums (https://www.irv2.com/forums/f123/cummins-isx-broken-valve-in-6-a-401436.html)
I'm not sure when they started the PTO shaft (like the '10s) needed greasing rather than a wet PTO. If this hasn't been kept up it is quite a bunch of $ to repair. Brad M went through this and it gave him a frown on his face.
Mike
Pretty sure anything with the 07-10 ISX is impacted, even the 500/525 Nimbus. See specifically this post: Break down on I-10 (fan pump failure) (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=23654.msg186225#msg186225)
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According to our records there are 80 coaches that have the PTO for the hydraulic pump on certain Foretravel Motorcoaches involving Phenix and Nimbus model years 2007-2010.
When we were aware of the potential problem we established 4 levels of service policy for both pre- and post- warranty expiration for our owners with these non-greasable shafts.
· 80 coaches originally had the non-greasable shaft.
· 18 involved ISL engines that have not indicated a service life problem.
· 34 in that unit range have had greasable shafts installed post production.
· Some have had in excess of 70,000 miles without failure.
· 28 PTOs could still be suspect.
· Inspections are still recommended and shafts with fittings greased per our original service bulletin dated 8/18/2011.
Note: Unlike other motorhome manufacturers our pump is for cooling only and does not affect the separate steering pump operation.
Sincerely,
James
(James is James Triana)
Garrettko,
You should make sure the coach you are looking at has the PTO item addressed. As it is an expensive repair and can leave the coach stranded when it fails. The PTO runs the fans for the radiator/cooling.
Slide bladder leaks would be another costly item that could be an issue with a coach of that age.
Search this forum for "PTO" and "Slide Bladder" and you will find a lot of valuable information.