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Title: Radiator Lesson
Post by: GleamB on December 15, 2022, 03:14:43 pm
OK
Might sound dumb.....Keith told me I have a radiator leak that is common to my coach.
He suggested four bottles of a stop leak.
My question is.......
How Do You Know when radiator is "full"??
You'd a thunk I'd know this, by now.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: wolfe10 on December 15, 2022, 03:17:13 pm
Coolant should be all the way up in the metal tank-- if you remove the radiator cap, coolant should come out.

The level is determined in the overflow container to the passenger's side.  Level hot should be above the level cold.  If it is not, you have air in the cooling system.  The system will purge itself as long as it is working properly and there is coolant in the overflow container.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: Dakota Slim on December 15, 2022, 05:01:59 pm
Thanks Brett. I never understood this before either.
Next question: How does one determine if the system is working properly?
I have a feeling that my radiator cap is not the correct one because I have had coolant come out from the cap and not go into the bottle. Maybe it was because there was no coolant in the bottle?
I just filled the bottle to the cold level and topped off the radiator and figure this is a good time to make sure everything is in order.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: oldguy on December 15, 2022, 05:22:09 pm
Your cap may not be sealing properly.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: wolfe10 on December 15, 2022, 05:27:23 pm
Radiator caps are not expensive, but are specific.

Hopefully, someone else with your drivetrain will have the correct PN.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: Herb Stark on December 15, 2022, 06:33:03 pm
Coolant should be all the way up in the metal tank-- if you remove the radiator cap, coolant should come out.

The level is determined in the overflow container to the passenger's side.  Level hot should be above the level cold.  If it is not, you have air in the cooling system.  The system will purge itself as long as it is working properly and there is coolant in the overflow container.
Brett, are you saying that the tank should be full and the overflow tank should have "some"fluid in it for the system to purge and start working properly?  My overflow tube was stopped up completely and the system was not ebbing and flowing to the tank.  All is clear now and still has not started working  back and forth to the tank.  I now have put the cold amount in the overflow and filled the tank, but have not run it since.  Hopefully when I go back tomorrow and put my new start batteries in, I can run it and see what happens when it warms up.  Of course before I do that I will have to install the resonator and exhaust back on as I had to remove the stock muffler because try as I might, I could not get the start batteries past the stock muffler.  So a small job turned into a much larger one.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: wolfe10 on December 15, 2022, 07:51:57 pm
Brett, are you saying that the tank should be full and the overflow tank should have "some"fluid in it for the system to purge and start working properly?

YES.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: red tractor on December 17, 2022, 08:15:48 pm
I worked on a coach a month ago where the hose from the black metal tank to the plastic overflow tank was totally plugged. I tried to get it cleared out, but ended up replacing the hose.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: Dakota Slim on December 17, 2022, 08:23:35 pm
The last time I replaced my coolant, I also replaced the radiator cap. (about 800 miles ago) I took the old cap to a NAPA store and was given what I was told was an exact replacement. After reading this post, I checked my radiator and found that is was about a gallon low even though the overflow bottle indicates full when cold.
I'll call Foretravel tomorrow to see if they have a part number for the correct cap but I found this article which will help me find the correct cap if I have to go that route. I'm pretty sure I need one with an upper seal and the one I got from NAPA doesn't have one. That would explain why the bottle system currently doesn't work and my coolant level was low.

How to Choose the Correct Radiator Cap
How to Choose the Correct Radiator Cap (https://knowledge.northernfactory.com/en/articles/24-how-to-choose-the-correct-radiator-cap)
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: Michelle on December 17, 2022, 08:30:32 pm
Also check the condition of the overflow hose carefully.  Any cracks in it will cause the system to suck air instead of fluid from the overflow as the system cools down.

This also applies to the AquaHot and the generator overflows.
Title: Re: Radiator Lesson
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on December 17, 2022, 11:36:53 pm
Also check the condition of the overflow hose carefully.  Any cracks in it will cause the system to suck air instead of fluid from the overflow as the system cools down.

This also applies to the AquaHot and the generator overflows.
Michelle may have the key here. Ours also lost coolant but the solder had given up where the overflow hose fitting goes into the neck of the radiator cap housing. I  put a piece of Hardieboard above and soldered it back together.

Pierce