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Title: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on January 03, 2023, 01:56:30 pm
Our aquahot started with a small water leak that is now more like a spray.

Doesn't matter if Aquahot in on or off, it's spraying. We put a valve to stop the water from going to the Aquahot so we could have water (cold fosset). We turn on the valve only for short showers.

The heat system works.

Is it repairable? Any recommendations in SE Florida ?

Thanks

Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: bigdog on January 03, 2023, 02:03:27 pm
Our aquahot started with a small water leak that is now more like a spray.

Doesn't matter if Aquahot in on or off, it's spraying. We put a valve to stop the water from going to the Aquahot so we could have water (cold fosset). We turn on the valve only for short showers.

The heat system works.

Is it repairable? Any recommendations in SE Florida ?

Thanks


Your best bet is to contact a local mobile repair that knows the aqua hot system. 

You might crawl into the aquahot area with your phone and post a picture of where the leak is. Also, you can down load the AQ repair manual.

Even turning it on for short showers is not recommended. You DO NOT want water getting into the belly foam structure.

Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: WS6_Keith on January 03, 2023, 04:53:19 pm
Where is the leak coming from?  Inside the unit covers or external?  If it's cold water, it may be the feed line.  If so, it's probably Pex and easily mended.  Post a picture.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: red tractor on January 03, 2023, 07:57:11 pm
Probably going to be either the hot or water lines into and out of the aqua hot. Did you come down from the frozen north country?
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: red tractor on January 03, 2023, 07:59:56 pm
I have experience working with aqua hot, am close to Tampa. Have a space with electric hook up if you can't find help closer. Thanks Ron
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on January 03, 2023, 08:15:47 pm
Can see the actual leak or take picture without taking it appart but we hear it spray
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: wolfe10 on January 03, 2023, 08:17:37 pm
So, this is potable water-- leak quits when shore water is disconnected and water pump is off and pressure bled off?
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Rudy on January 03, 2023, 08:53:59 pm
Go see Ron (Red Tractor) and you are done.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on January 05, 2023, 11:57:15 am
Just talked with Ron, we will go see him :)

Thanks everyone ☺️
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Québec
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on May 26, 2023, 10:29:06 am
Update on our leak...

We were not able to make it to Ron's and are now back to Quebec Canada. Called a autorised Aquahot repair here and he can't get replacement parts (discontinued) and gave us a 17k quote (cnd currency) to replace the unit.

On top if the water leak we also found boiler fluid  and are pretty discouraged

Plan A : sell the coach as is and buy someone else problems
Plan B : replace the unit with a new unit for just hot water and use the AC/heat pump for heat
Plan C : Take it apart and try one of those DIY project. DH pretty good but never did that kind of rebuild. We do have time and tools but no knowledge.

Please share your experiences and/or advices. Our aquahot model us a AHE-130-02X

Thanks
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: craneman on May 26, 2023, 11:03:00 am
There are posts of members rebuilding their units. Scott (DSD) being the last one. It can be done your coach would probably sell for less than the price of a new or used one if you sold it as is.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on May 26, 2023, 11:13:04 am
If it were me I'd make the journey to see Rudy or Red Tractor. It's a long way but it will be fixed correctly.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on May 26, 2023, 12:09:42 pm
Do you know if @red tractor  or @Rudy  would do rebuild jobs and how much that could come up too.

We will be back in Florida next winter and if a trip to Texas is worth it we could consider that too

Thanks
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Pamela & Mike on May 26, 2023, 12:16:41 pm
I'm a tinkering kind of guy so I would go with plan C.  If you get lost there are several here on the site that can help you out with guidance as we have been down that road.

Mike
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: bigdog on May 26, 2023, 01:37:22 pm
Update on our leak...

We were not able to make it to Ron's and are now back to Quebec Canada. Called a autorised Aquahot repair here and he can't get replacement parts (discontinued) and gave us a 17k quote (cnd currency) to replace the unit.

On top if the water leak we also found boiler fluid  and are pretty discouraged

Plan A : sell the coach as is and buy someone else problems
Plan B : replace the unit with a new unit for just hot water and use the AC/heat pump for heat
Plan C : Take it apart and try one of those DIY project. DH pretty good but never did that kind of rebuild. We do have time and tools but no knowledge.

Please share your experiences and/or advices. Our aquahot model us a AHE-130-02X

Thanks
That's odd, Ours (1998 ahe-100 model) is older than yours and also long discontinued. And yet the Aqua Hot factory in Colorado had no issue rebuilding ours. And folks on this site are always replacing parts on the older AHE-100 model.

I suggest you call Aqua Hot directly and ask about replacement parts. Might be the case of your shop just not wanting to deal with it and maybe not having experience with this older model.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Rudy on May 26, 2023, 01:45:32 pm
TwoSons,  I am a factory authorized service center too.  That info plus $4.00 will get you a cup of coffee in Las Vegas.

I can replace your heater for about $10,500, parts and labor.  There are a few leaks that can be repaired for a whole lot less.  But, would have to see it to tell you for sure.

I am in the Houston TX area with a full hook up rv spot should that interest you.

I wish you well in solving your issue.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: juicesqueezer on May 26, 2023, 02:04:26 pm
TwoSons;  I see you are from Canada and it was asked a few questions ago if you had this leak happen while in Canada?  I would also recommend either Rudy or Red Tractor for your repair.  May be as simple as cutting into the pex line and fixing that leak for a few dollars!  Good luck and please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: dsd on May 26, 2023, 02:05:26 pm
Option C. But it's not your ordinary DIY skillset.
Option D. Go on Vacation to Texas. Get Rudy to repair or replace. Easy Peezy. And you end up with a great coach. Also ask him for factory training on how to operate and service for extreme use were you live. Carry all required fluids and tools to accomplish anywhere, anytime you need to.
Scott
Found my leak U320 Aqua hot (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=40885.0)
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on May 26, 2023, 02:44:41 pm
Thank you all for your great advices and offer (Rudy).

We are 3rd owner of this beautiful coach. Still looks brand new and low mileage (69k miles) . In all it's life, this coach spent only 1 winter in Canada. Every years (except for the one) all it did is trip from eastern Canada to Florida .We think it was properly winterize for that winter.... Could also have happened late fall or early spring as Canadian are limited to 180 days in a 365 period in the USA and still experience some freezing nights here and there. We used all our days and can't set foot in the USA until end of November :(  Wich sucks on so many levels beeing retired and financially self sufficient but not really free.

Anyway, I will call Aquahot to see if we could get parts for that model as one of you suggested.

I (the wife) am not a fan of option A (selling) but DH is a little tired of all the issues
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: WS6_Keith on May 26, 2023, 04:15:44 pm
Did you guys ever take any pictures?  If you show us where it's leaking, we may be able to give you some more help.  The AH in my 03 U320 leaked engine coolant from the coolant loop, but it was a relatively easy fix...just one copper elbow that had a pinhole in the joint.  $20 at Lowes and fixed it right up.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on May 26, 2023, 05:17:14 pm
We don't have access to the boiler area where the leak is coming from, without taking the whole unit out.

Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on May 26, 2023, 05:25:38 pm
The blue valve is something we put to stop the water from going in
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Rudy on May 26, 2023, 06:12:02 pm
Please call me.  Rudy Legettt  7 one 3  8 one 8  3234 before 8 pm central.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: juicesqueezer on May 27, 2023, 08:49:00 am
The blue valve is something we put to stop the water from going in

I wish my AH was that easy to access!  Just saying.......... some are buried and you have to lay on your side over the bay rails to work on unit!  Rudy is da man and I would make that trip in November to see him in TX, or he might be able to help you over the phone.  Either way, life is short, enjoy your coach!
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: mkc1962 on June 05, 2023, 10:23:28 am
I wish my AH was that easy to access!  Just saying.......... some are buried and you have to lay on your side over the bay rails to work on unit!  Rudy is da man and I would make that trip in November to see him in TX, or he might be able to help you over the phone.  Either way, life is short, enjoy your coach!

Same here.....recently had to deal with a leak on my Engine incoming loop way up inside the belly of the beast.....all fixed now, but took a few weeks for my body to get back fixed due to all the twisting and turning.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on June 10, 2023, 04:09:26 pm
Update on Aquahot. She is out of her bay.

Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: red tractor on June 10, 2023, 05:44:18 pm
Are you going to get it rebuilt?
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on June 11, 2023, 09:57:42 am
Hi Ron,

For the time being, we just want to open up the boiler section to see what the problem is and see if its a simple fix

If not, somehow, get a rebuild unit in it, when we are down south this winter.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Rudy on June 11, 2023, 10:29:06 am
If you can not fix it and need a reman heater, please let Ron or I know when you will arrive down south.  Either one of us, Ron is best for Florida, can have a heater waiting on your arrival.  One of us can put it in or you can.  BUT, bring your heater so there is a core to return.  Put covers back on your core heater.  Must be complete, pumps, burner, everything.

If you want a brand new 600D heater with a Reporter to control it, install will be much more difficult than a reman.  But you can keep old heater if you wish.

All the best sorting it out
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on June 11, 2023, 10:51:42 am
That is what we were hoping to do,  and took your advice . Took plenty of pictures , all hoses ,pipes, and wires identified for easy install . Just hoping one of you can help us. Thank you
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on June 12, 2023, 02:23:55 pm
Clean up time. Looks rotten. What's next ?
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Rudy on June 12, 2023, 02:42:50 pm
Pressurize the fresh water loop you are looking at and see if you find a leak.  The heat transfer mastic looks to be under the loop.  All around the copper pipe would be better but may be fine like it is if you had hot water before.  If a leak is found, you can install a new copper fresh water loop that is emersed in heat transfer mastic.

OR, get Ron to install a reman.  If you go that route, reinstall the covers.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Diane and Louie 04 U295 on July 02, 2023, 02:43:51 pm
New update.  Installed a temporary fix.

EXCEL TANKLESS GAS WATER HEATER... EXCEL TANKLESS GAS WATER HEATER Vent Free (LOW WATER PRESSURE STARTUP) 1.6... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DHDX3DT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share)

With the AC/heat pumps for heat and now instant hot water, is there any reason the temporary fix couldn't become a permanent one ? I like the extra bay space.

Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: craneman on July 02, 2023, 02:56:01 pm
Boon docking needing to run the generator during the night for heat would be an issue
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: Michelle on July 02, 2023, 03:59:39 pm


With the AC/heat pumps for heat and now instant hot water, is there any reason the temporary fix couldn't become a permanent one ? I like the extra bay space.



Heat pumps will only operate down to about 40-45F outside temperature.  You'd limit the coach to being a southern-use only one and significantly impact resale.
Title: Re: Aquahot water leak in Florida
Post by: hdff on July 02, 2023, 04:21:35 pm
Heat pumps will only operate down to about 40-45F outside temperature.  You'd limit the coach to being a southern-use only one and significantly impact resale.
Exactly what I was thinking Michelle, I would never want to rely on just my heat pumps. Before I knew better I had a heat pump freeze up at about 38* during one of our Texas winters, I now use the AH on electric element..