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Title: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Elliott on April 24, 2023, 11:37:47 am
The wife wants the [faux?] leather ceilings in our GV gone. I'm not sure the effort is worth the gain because ours is in great shape, albeit a little dated. I do not know what I'll find if I start removing the leather but I'm curious if anyone has just painted their ceiling or done anything else. We have enough projects ahead of us that I'd really only be interested in a relatively low-complexity alterative. Anyone have any bright ideas that won't turn out trashy?

This feels like a phase 2.0 project that can be a problem for Future Elliott but I don't want to miss out on an opportunity if it makes sense to do something now while we're just gutting everything.
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: turbojack on April 24, 2023, 01:56:00 pm
Sooo the wife wants to put mirrors all over the ceiling?  I think I would stick with what you now have.
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: juicesqueezer on April 24, 2023, 02:23:18 pm
Elliott;  you will opening up a can of worms!  Saying this, I have seen wood planking on the ceiling.  Can't remember their names, but they had a YouTube channel with 5 kids, did revivals and revamped a GV.  Looked really good.  You might do a search on that channel.  Hope that helps!        Trent & Siobhán is the name of the channel.  There are also a couple of other Foretravel GV remodels on Youtube!
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Lon and Cheryl on April 24, 2023, 03:07:34 pm
I bought my coach after a refrigerator fire. The ceiling fabric was trash. The previous owner tore all the ceiling material out ( except the bedroom). Thats the way I bought it.

I first thought I would replace the headliner, that is until It dawned on me how hard that was going to be and since I'm the only one to do the work all I could think of was a one armed paper hanger.
I took a deep breath and decided that fabric would not go back up on the ceiling. I thought that in a vehicle that is subjected to kitchen odors and smoke, a fabric on the ceiling was not a good choice.
I went with fiberglass panels. https://www.lowes.com/pd/48-in-x-8-ft-Embossed-White-Wall-Panel/1000174771?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-mlw-_-ggl-_-LIA_MLW_135_Windows-Patio-Door-Garage-_-1000174771-_-local-_-0-_-0&gclid=CjwKCAjw0ZiiBhBKEiwA4PT9z54GcNDiCXWUsQCnz-94U9-O3ClclHLM20Y2kRguff8kfGqsm6js6RoC7_MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

It was a project gluing and fastening the panels but I'm happy with the final outcome.
Since this was a one man project I found the panels easier to work with. I would measure the area for each panel, cut it to width, apply the adhesive ( 5200) place the panel on the ceiling, and hold them up with a bunch of 1x2 boards that could be bent back like a bow and using the spring effect hold and push the panels against the ceiling until the adhesive dried ( a couple of days).

Its been about 10years now and they are all still over my head like I had intended.
Its nice to have a material that can be wiped down and won't hold any kind of odor or stain.

I used the "bubbly side" down and hid the seems with a 2" fiberglass strip. Eventually I will add some LED rope lights to  the edging to shine across the ceiling.
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: rbark on April 24, 2023, 06:35:13 pm
Would love to see some pictures of your ceiling.
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on April 25, 2023, 06:59:11 am
Elliot, my 93 GV ceiling is Ozite.

6555 Ozite Ceiling / Headliner Carpet Geometric 72" Wide - Sand (https://pantherrvproducts.com/6555-ozite-ceiling-headliner-carpet-72-wide-sand-per-linear-foot/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjJb_7_rG5gIVEdvACh0NvAJrEAQYAiABEgLDWfD_BwE)

Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Elliott on April 25, 2023, 09:34:26 am
Thanks all - I did my duty and at least inquired about alternatives. I think we'll let this one simmer for a while and if it still holds some heat in a year or two maybe we tackle it.

Elliot, my 93 GV ceiling is Ozite.

6555 Ozite Ceiling / Headliner Carpet Geometric 72" Wide - Sand (https://pantherrvproducts.com/6555-ozite-ceiling-headliner-carpet-72-wide-sand-per-linear-foot/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjJb_7_rG5gIVEdvACh0NvAJrEAQYAiABEgLDWfD_BwE)
Jeff thanks, I have seen that look in late 90's Unicoaches I think and like it. It's understated, which I like. That may be the way to go if we decided to tackle this
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on April 25, 2023, 11:08:57 am
We prefer the carpet type material as it absorbs sound better. It has a subtle look and seems to disappear as we look through the coach. Ours still looks great after 30 years.

Pierce
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on April 25, 2023, 11:28:48 am
We prefer the carpet type material as it absorbs sound better. Ours still looks great after 30 years.
X2 on the "mouse fur" (Ozite).  Our original headliner also looks great after the same number of years.  ^.^d

Additional plus factors:  The Ozite is very light, so a lot less chance of it pulling loose and falling down.  AND, you can clean it with a vacuum to remove dust.  When we replaced/removed our OEM roof air conditioners, they left behind a "shadow" of dirty ceiling material that was not completely covered by the new units.  I just used a terry washcloth moistened with some carpet cleaner and the dirt came right off!

Thought of another good thing: when I removed the old unused hand-crank-up satellite dish from our roof, it left a 2" hole in the ceiling material where the crank penetrated the ceiling.  I asked at FOT one time when we were there if they had any New Old Stock ceiling material and they gave me a couple yards for free.  I plugged the (interior) hole in our roof with blue styrofoam insulation, then cut a piece of the Ozite to size and glued it in the hole.  The ceiling patch is practically invisible!  If you didn't know it was there you'd never see it.

Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Peter on April 25, 2023, 04:28:20 pm
Do you have pics of your sat crank fill job? That old crank is  just plain ugly and I would love to do something with it
Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on April 25, 2023, 07:40:41 pm
Do you have pics of your sat crank fill job? That old crank is  just plain ugly and I would love to do something with it
Just so happens I do.  The satellite crank, in our coach, came through the ceiling in the bathroom.  The patch, being made of new (old but unused) material, was a bit whiter than the 30 year old ceiling material.  This makes it very slightly noticeable if one looks closely, but as I said, most people would never see it.  The repaired hole is centered in each of the photos as follows:

Photo 01.  Looking from bedroom door into bathroom at hole.
Photo 02.  Same view, but closer.
Photo 03.  Looking from standing in bathroom at the hole.
Photo 04.  Same view, but closer.
Photo 05.  Standing directly under the hole, looking straight up.

Title: Re: Ceiling Alternatives
Post by: Peter on April 26, 2023, 12:15:15 am
That is a terrific job! Not very noticeable at all. Guess I will purchase some of the ozite from panther rv to products