Pulled into the Sweet spot in Boise national Forest North of Boise Idaho. At the time the ground was dry and everything looked good. After a few days it started to rain and after a couple days of that I thought I should get out of where I was and move to higher ground since it was going to rain for another 4 days. When I first pulled in this spot was dry as a bone but looking at it now I see that it is in the drainage of the surrounding high ground. So I picked a bad spot. My plan was just to back it up until I hit some firmer ground and then just pull out but unfortunately the front wheels were dug in pretty deep. So for the last couple days I've been rocking it back and forth trying to build up some soil underneath the front wheels to get it out. I've got plenty of fuel and enough food but my water situation is getting critical. At least in the tanks. I've caused some damage to the front of the coach now due to the slope and at this point I'm wondering if I should call progressive and try to get a wrecker out to pull me out or just wait until next week when the rain is supposed to clear up and things will start to dry out. I haven't called progressive yet so I'm just looking for some other opinions.
Should I stay and wait until it dries out and then attempt or should I just call progressive and be done with it? What would you do?
Again I'm not in a super hurry but I am anxious.
Also what tire pressure should I lower it to? I'm thinking the front wheels I should keep them up but the back I'm not getting much traction. I dropped on the 100 PSI I don't know how much further I should go input needed thanks
Bob,start pulling weeds and grass to put under the wheels,any gravel or rocks around,if the forecast is sunny tomorrow wait for some sun,any rugs or mats,old Flo might not want to come where you are.
Off-road regular size jeep go from 35psi to 15psi ish for reference.
Progressive winched me out of a soft area last year. Don't be afraid to call them. Depending on where you are, you might need to find your own service and Progressive will reimburse.
[Moved to Discussions for member input on how to safely extract - I know there may be some concerns related to the bulkheads with this - Michelle]
Definitely call
I would call for a wrecker service, there is no way of knowing how wet it will get there after 4 more days of rain. Get out, get to town, get the tanks dumped and filled. Why take the chance of things getting worse? I suppose you have a towed that can get you out if things got worse but I wouldn't want to leave the coach behind.
Just my opinion, but i don't like the feeling of being "stuck" anywhere......
Already tried putting gravel under the wheels etc I tried using my outdoor mat on the back wheels for traction but that just created a big mess. Right now it's sunny and it's drying up somewhat but it's calling for rain for the next three days in the afternoon. The problem I see with the wrecker is a can only get me from the back as I've got several trees and more soft area into the front and it's a little bit on the wet side there as well. If I just was able to pull straight back I think it would be fine but a large wrecker would probably disturb the soil enough that I may just get stuck back there as well. I've only got a small little entrancing tool so either tomorrow I'll drive the Boise or I'll wait for Monday and go in town when the true value opens and I can get a long-handed Spade there.
I hear what you're saying I'm just got concerned about the wrecker as well. One of the things I was thinking of is using my 20-ton Jack to raise the front wheel so I can fill in underneath it cuz that's really what's effectively holding me plus the mud in the back. Those Toyo tires are pretty slick they have very little traction. Not enough to get me out of the hole at the front wheels are in.
I think with the flat piece of wood I have and the Jack I might be able to do it but the area that I'm thinking of putting the Jack still has a hole and water so I have to fill it in. Plus I need to Spade to dig the front out because the last attempt cause even more damage and pulling me back is going to rip the front bottom completely off I think. If I can get the tires out of the hole then inflating the air suspension all the way should prevent the front from being damaged anymore.
I don't know I'm just kind of a little strung out right now been dealing with this myself for three or four days and finally decided that it was time to seek another opinion.
There's an area about 150 yards away that has a pile of gravel so I have a lot of gravel I can carry back and forth but I need a bigger shovel.
The last time I called progressive was when I was at John 44's house and we lost a beat in the tire. I never did get a call back from them and after a while I just canceled it so it's another reason why I'm a little hesitant. If I can self extract then I'll call him and have them look at it for the damage.
Appreciate everybody's input and I'm open to more. It looks like it won't really dry out here until mid next week. But it doesn't rain all day just for a few hours here and there
For me, the cost of a Wrecker bill would be worth avoiding the stress of being stuck that long. And I say that with more experience than most :)
How far are you from a hard surface? Is it behind you or in front of you? I would consider digging a drainage ditch from the low spot where the water is standing away from the coach to a lower area so that if it continues to rain the water will run off away from the coach. If you have the time in my opinion, I would wait it out until the ground drys out, (That could be a week or more) if you try to drag your coach through the mud from the rear you could possibly do sever damage.... It is one thing to pull it straight back, but if you start to lift the rear of the coach you risk straining the structure. If it were me while the ground is wet I would remove as much dirt from behind both the front and rear wheels (Dig a trench) for the wheels to travel in until they clear the wet area.. You my need to get some help (Labor) to dig out.
Call Progressive. That's what they are there for.
Bob. the generator would help dry the area forward of the front tires. Agree to dig drainage if possible.
If you can jack the front up and then dump good gravel under the front tires that would help and
shovel out around the front of the coach. Gerry has good ideas. A wrecker might not even try to get
in there as it may get stuck or not have enough traction to pull you out. Dry weather is you best
friend.
Bob, if you really need to move to mitigate water damage, 4X8 sheets of 1/2" plywood are your friend. At least 8 of them. Jack up the wheels and slip them underneath. Try not to drive off the other side. I place something on the ground next to my window to show me where to stop and move the other 4 sheets of plywood.
Next time, plan your escape route.
It rains some this morning but most of the afternoon has been dry and sunny. I'm going to go into town tomorrow a 30 MI drive and get a shovel and some water for my 5 gallon container. I really think a wrecker would not work here right now. With the shovel I can dig a trench from behind the front wheels that will ramp up so to speak backwards. That would get my front wheels out of the ditch and that most definitely will fix my problem once it's dry enough to get better traction.
Anybody have an idea the lowest I can lower the air pressure in these tires without messing with the bead? If I lose the beat on the tire then I'm really screwed so I don't want to go too low. Their toyos m177 295/75/R22.5
They call them on Monday to find out.
Picture is of the driver side front wheel and that would be the one I would dig out behind it same with the other side.
I'm still going to call progressive of course to get a quote on any damage that was done but I'm going to try to self recover first.
The nearest paved road is 1/8 of a mile up a gravel road. The ground behind the coach is somewhat dry since the sun's been hitting it most of the afternoon and on a slightly upslope. If I could get it up there I could get it out of here there's a couple of puddles before I get to the gravel area of the road but I could easily get to them once I'm moving at a decent speed.
Once it dries out more of course. Also about digging a trench to drain it it's a good idea but I'm basically at the bottom of this area. It does slope off to the West some but I would need an awful lot of help to do that. I've actually been able to drain most of the puddles by hand with a small container going into a big Lowe's bucket and then dumping it away. Most of the standing water is away from the wheels now with the exception of one wheel and if it continues to be sunny most of the day I'm hoping hoping that it will dry out more
Good luck. I wouldn't mess with the tire pressure.
I wouldn't be letting any more air out of the rear tires, digging out behind front tires would be your best bet and let things dry out a bit and you'll walk her out of there.
Just had a nice phone call with Chuck AKA craneman
Who gave me some good ideas that I'm going to try out tomorrow. Let you know if it works. But I still got to wait till this area dries out more. Thanks for all the ideas appreciate it.
I am not so sure that I would lower the air pressure in the tires at this time. You are already stuck, flotation will not help and Our tires are not wide enough to actually function as a flotation tire, letting air out will only lower the coach into the mud creating more drag from the under belly and front bumper area. from the pictures I saw, make sure your front wheels are straight not angled either way so that they will track into the rear wheel path.... I would think if you could dig a track behind the front tires a lay a 8ft or 10ft 2x6 in it, that would help lift and support the front as you move backwards. You could also to this with the rear tires, dig a trench and place support boards in the tracks... A lot of work but will save you damaging you coach any more than it already is..
If you can find someone to operate your Jeep a bit of a tug would probably pull you out of there, freeing up the front tires would be helpful.
X2 on what Doug said, Linda has pulled ours out Twice with our wrangler. Mud both times
Fourdayoff and I were talking about a situation like this as we walked around SEMA last year. We talked about how having some Maxtrax recovery boards would be really helpful. In your case, it may be what you need. They look like this: Maxtrax Mkii Sky Blue Mkii Recovery Boards MTX02TG New limited edition. ARB... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/125969218606)
Anyway, you mentioned going into town...I'm not sure if that's Boise or not, but if it is, Google Maps shows a 4x4 shop on the NE side of Boise called Bucks 4x4. Their website is basically a holding page, but the one of the trucks pictured has a set of these boards on it, so I'm guessing they may sell them. Might be something to consider. Looks like they open Monday at 9am.
Bucks 4x4 (http://www.bucks4x4.com/)
Gosh. I didn't notice the 3 photos you posted in your original post. I have no idea what the terrain looks like in front of your coach but I suspect it is similar to your current location and unless you want to stay there for a while you are going to need more than a Jeep to get out of there. .
The terrain gently slopes down in front of the coach but I have a large aspen tree to the front left and in directly in front a medium sized conifer tree. Plus the ground is more uneven. When I pulled into the site my plan was to back it out and then around. When I pulled in it was totally dry. Next time I will pay more attention to drainage. It was the only area where I was able to get level. Which is why my front wheels are in a little bit of a depression to start with as it leveled me out easier. But the ground was pretty dry and very hard.
Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/FPUtMdPS9ofoxnu9A)
Maybe there an contractor with a backhoe or a front end loader a truck near by,all you need is a very small pull back with a chain l got stuck on the side of a road the shoulder was soft sank on the roadside. and a farmer came out with a bail of hay for weight for TRACTION, on the front forks and pull me a back on the road this happened twice and I was in nowhere land.
This isn't something I'd tackle myself due to possibility of damaging the bulkheads/coach. You are up to your wheels in mud. Why don't you call your insurance company? I assume you do not have Coachnet or the like?
The cost of paying for professional help could be much less than the damage you may incur trying to do it yourself.
A Tow company is just going to hock a steel cable to the frame or axle and pull a back hole or front end loader with the hydraulics can do an control pull just as well the back hitch is rated to 10,000 pounds. For towing and if you also go to the rear axles that's two hock up points he went in that way he has to come out that way the least resistance
Never been in this situation - hope we never are.
But following the whole discussion from the comfort of my computer desk, it does seem like pulling the coach out from the rear would be most logical. At least at the back you have a strong, accessible, point to hook onto the coach: the hitch receiver. They make a device that plugs into the receiver and provides a place to hook a tow rope. Note the bold admonition to always "Pull IN LINE with hitch. DO NOT side pull".
2" Hitch Receiver Recovery Point | Yankum Ropes (https://yankum.com/products/2-inch-hitch-receiver-recovery-point)
If it is decided to attempt pulling the coach out backwards, I would also recommend a kinetic recovery rope rather than chain or cable. Much easier on the coach structure, and less chance of costly fiberglass body panel damage if the rope breaks.
Kinetic Recovery Ropes | Yankum Ropes (https://yankum.com/collections/kinetic-recovery-ropes)
Standing by - fingers crossed for a happy resolution!
Drag some drain paths for the puddles.
Try to buy tire chains .
The lowest tire load scale goes to 70 ish #. Stay over that imho
Call the tow
truck.
Thanks for everybody's input. I'm taking it all in.
I'm not ready to call a tow truck or anything like that at this point. I'm going to try to recover myself and to do that it needs to dry out more. That means middle of next week. I'm going to head into town and get a few things and go from there. I've been scrounging the area and I found a 2x8x6 ft board that may come in handy. Also a bunch of sawdust from an old tree that will help suck up some of the moisture as well as the gravel from the road. If my tires were fully in and the bottom was up against the ground I would have a different opinion. But from my line of sight it looks like I can get out once the ground is more firm and dry. As I said in my previous post I'm not in a particular sort of hurry although my fridge just crapped out. Glad I have my booge RV fridge and freezer. I think the thermostat went.
It's relaxing out here it's kind of what I need in my life right now. My biggest mistake was trying to move it when the ground was still wet.
If my middle or next week I can't get it out by myself then I will definitely look for professional assistance.
My feeling is is if I'm going to be boondocking a lot which I plan to I really need to be able to self recover. At this point I really don't see any problem with the bulkheads. My lower bulkheads were repaired by a company in nacogdoches by the previous owner. They're not the original.
And as always this post will be here for others if they ever get into that situation.
Again appreciate you guys and updates when I have them.
I was going to mention the refrigerator but for some reason I thought you had changed over to a residential. Being out of level (ask me how I know) can ruin a cooling unit. Can you smell ammonia or see any sign of leakage?
What abou a 12 volt heavey duty winch you could chain to a tree to help pull,could use a nylon strap to hold tension,any harbor freights nearby?
It was more a warning not to do anything that could put unusual stress on them, like the tow operator attaching to the wrong place or pulling at the wrong angle.
I seem to recall at least one past situation on the forum where a pull-out from soft ground was suspected in a bulkhead issue discovered later on.
If the front is really stuck pulling from the hitch does pull on the bulkhead. See Don's post on repairing the bulkhead.
If anything on the front is hitting the ground, lift your front end with the leveling button. Just the front
end.
Also if you lift the front end open up the leveling control box and remove the 7.5 amp fuse that is
at the rear of the fuses and then it won't go into traveling mode and will stay there. That will
allow you one less thing to think about. When out put the fuse back in.
When I had my first Foretravel I drove past the Gold Nugget Mine east of Quartzsite and stopped to chat with the driver of a big front end loader who lived and worked at a quarry there. I continued on down the primitive road a couple miles, intending to camp for a few days while I prospected for gold. I tried to go down and up a big dip in the road and hung the rear end of the RV up good. The rear wheels were off the ground.
Long story short, I got the guy with the front end loader to hook up a chain and pull me out.
My unsolicited advice: If you don't currently have CoachNet, and you keep mentioning that you are in no hurry - THIS is the perfect time to call CoachNet and sign up with them! They have a 24 hour period after signing up where you have to wait to "use" their service. They don't have to know that you are currently stuck. Get covered and mid-next week if you need them, you've got it. ^.^d
So just saw that you have been playing in the mud. Not good. I just joined a group here call SNORR. SOUTHERN Nevada off-road recovery group. I'm sure they have similar groups were you are. They don't charge either. I'll post the national number shortly. Everyone should have this number. Big tipping is appropriate.
Scott
Offroad Portal
(503) 877-5263
offroadportal.org
This may be more than they are willing to do, but last week they pulled a semi out of the desert near vegas in our area. Get ahold of them and let us know how it turns out. Put your awnings out to help keep water father away. Dig drainage ditches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Mn6V1IzHw
Reached out to Bob by text. Another chapter tomorrow
I have a fridge made in Seattle that was built for Marine use. It's a bd50 danfoss compressor. It should work I just actually put a voltmeter to the 110 side and I'm not getting any power there so I'm not sure what's going on I don't have any trip breakers under the bed. It also works on 12 volt but it's still not cooling. I confirmed I'm getting 13 volts to the compressor module so maybe the modules bad. After I finish trenching some more I'll look into that.
It was a beautiful sunny day until it wasn't. I got back from the store in McCall Idaho about 40 minutes before it really came down. Heavy rain with hail for about an hour and then just light rain for another hour. Needless to say my coach was in the middle of a pond at that point. I got a great d-handled John Deere shovel at the true value and thought I would just take the front part out. Wound up digging a whole trench about 20 ft long and 8 in wide and then I connected several of the puddles to the main trench. That took me a little over an hour and a half. Now my back is feeling it but it's okay. Hopefully most of the water will drain away during the night. I will have more rain tonight and some tomorrow. It's going to rain pretty much until Wednesday. Only for a few hours a day but still it's enough to keep the ground very wet. I don't have Coach that but I have progressive insurance and that has roadside assistance. The last time I called them when I was at John 44's house and we were working on the rear brakes and we lost the bead on one of the tires, I called and they were telling me how they were going to have to tow me and I'm like no no tow I just need help with the tire, and then we waited and waited and never got a call and I finally figured out how to do it myself.
But I will call progressive tomorrow as well as this recovery team just so that they know what's going on and where I'm at and I still think I'm going to have to wait till Wednesday or Friday before I'll be able to recover out of here even with help.
I hate to say it but it is going to take a long time for that area to dry out. With the curent forecast it could be weeks...
Here's the 10 day for McCall and the monthly speaks for itself...
The Weather Channel (https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/678cf13f5871dc4c4fdf618ecabad78e2cf0013e830aa71f52c7c0ff14831b80)
My thoughts are with you!
I recently dug our FT out of deep sand, and it was brutal. The difference is - the sand mostly stays where it is put. I think you were just mixing up a giant batch of dirt soup.
I hope the recovery goes fine. Scary, maybe some bucks, but then it is over. There can be a lot of worth in "over."
I asked my artificial intelligence assistant about this predicament.
How do you get an RV out of mud?
Getting an RV out of mud can be a challenging task, but here are some steps you can follow:
Assess the situation: Evaluate the depth and consistency of the mud to determine the best course of action. If the mud is extremely deep or the RV is stuck at an awkward angle, it might be necessary to seek professional assistance.
Gather materials: You'll need some materials to assist in the process. Common items include a shovel, traction mats, wooden planks, sand or kitty litter for traction, a tow strap or chain, and a vehicle with enough power to pull the RV out.
Clear the area: Remove any loose mud, debris, or obstacles around the RV to create a clear path for recovery. Use a shovel or other suitable tools to dig out excess mud around the tires.
Create traction: Place traction mats, wooden planks, or other materials with good grip in front of the RV's tires. These materials can provide the necessary traction to help the tires gain grip and move forward.
Engage 4WD (if available): If your RV has a four-wheel drive (4WD) system, engage it before attempting to move. 4WD can distribute power to all four wheels, increasing your chances of getting unstuck.
Rocking technique: Shift the RV into low gear and gently rock it back and forth by slowly alternating between reverse and drive. Use gentle acceleration to avoid digging the wheels deeper into the mud. This rocking motion can help build momentum and aid in getting the RV unstuck.
Use a tow strap or chain: If rocking the RV doesn't work, you can try using a tow strap or chain to pull it out. Ensure that the strap or chain is securely attached to both the RV and the vehicle doing the pulling. The pulling vehicle should have enough power to pull the RV out steadily and smoothly.
Call for professional help (if needed): If you've tried the above steps without success, or if the RV is severely stuck, it's advisable to call a professional towing service or a specialized vehicle recovery service. They will have the necessary equipment and expertise to safely extract the RV from the mud.
Remember, safety should always be a priority during the recovery process. Exercise caution, and if you're unsure about any steps, it's best to seek professional assistance.
If you can get any movement with rocking, have an assistant toss sand or traction aid in the path as you rock, eventually raising the bus a tiny bit .
I don't believe it's good on the Allison to rock the coach. This situation looks far from getting it out by yourself. Throw in the towel, spend some bucks
Agree... it's not recommended to shift from D to R or R to D directly, should shift thru N, this would make it difficult to get a rocking motion
It would seem to to me the best option is to find someone with a winch, or a back hoe that can gentle apply pressure to help you. Trying to rock it out is going to be hard on things and get you deeper in. Th same applies to trying to snatch it out with pull ropes and 4WD. JMHO
Scott aka dsd gave me a link to a place called off-road portal.org they specialize in getting dummies out of the mud and sand. All volunteer. I contacted them today and they're looking for somebody in the area that can assist.
Yeah the way I rocked the coach back and forth was to put it in drive go forward as much as I could put it in neutral while holding the brake put it in reverse let the brake go and give it a little go juice. I'm not sure if it would damage the transmission or not I doubt it since this is a pretty robust system. I'm not going from reverse to drive though. Also while I'm doing that I'm also holding the air up button on the HWH pad... It's fun you should try it sometimes... Not.
The forecast for this area is rain today and tomorrow with Wednesday Thursday Friday should be fully sunny and then rain again on the weekend. My plan was to try and wait until Friday to fully be dried out around here. The trench I dug got most of the water away and it was sunny but now it's getting cloudy again.
Is the dog having fun? Are you seeing much wildlife? Other human visitors?
I was camped in Idaho once and had my dog tied to a 30' leash. Good thing because one morning there was a badger close to the RV and the dog took off after it. As the badger ran off he kept looking over his shoulder to see if it was time to turn around and kick butt.
Without the leash I would surely have had a vet bill.
Chief is having a pretty good time although I'm keeping him inside a lot because of the mud out there.
Lots of ground squirrels. Chief's favorite ball went down that hole and I guess I should go try to dig it out but it's down there pretty far.
Yesterday I saw one or two deer and there's plenty of track and scat around. Other than that just birds and flowers and peace and quiet. Is a great place to hang out for a couple weeks just not during the rainy season. The first place I boondocked was alongside of a river and that was interesting and getting in and out. But there were massive ponderosa pines hundreds of feet tall there. It was a beautiful place.
Not sure exactly where I'm going next but probably into Oregon unless I need to get major work done on the coach which I don't think I will.
Please
do not use ChatGPT or other AI to answer a forum question. Answers are suspect and are no substitute for personal knowledge of a coach issue. AI-generated answers are not permitted on most forums I belong to.
Ive never done this. I have used chains. Very interesting to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRxhvufvmw
So I have some guys that may be able to come out on Thursday with Jeeps. They're not insured it's all on me if something happens. But they seem to be pretty knowledgeable about this stuff it's an all volunteer thing.
There must have been some talk on Facebook related to my situation with those guys because I just got a call from a company in Cascade which is about 30 miles away I think name Eric who owns a company called Cascade emergency roadside service. He's offering his service to me although he does not think progressive will pay for it since I'm off pavement. He asked me to call progressive to find out if they will reimburse. He's quoted me a price of 2 to $3,000 but states that there's really no way of knowing for sure until he gets up there and we try it. He doesn't use a tow truck he uses a heavy duty dually with a Diesel and some 20,000 lb winches.
So I will call progressive tomorrow to find out about that but it would really check my ass if I paid my deductible with progressive and they paid him or I reimbursed me when these guys could have done it for a big tip. It's been mostly a dry day here but it's currently misting and we had a little bit of rain. I did try to rock it back and forth a little today and didn't have much success but I still think that it wouldn't take much to get it out of the current situation it's just whether or not the area behind it will support it or just stick there again.
I guess I'm asking for your opinion because I'm tired and it's hard for me to even concentrate right now.
I think what I really would like to do is see what the Jeep guys could do. I would think any damage would be covered by my insurance..
But at the same time I wouldn't mind being out of here sooner as my refrigerator is out and I need parts. Not to mention there's mud everywhere and my water tank is almost empty.
It's all good though I'm trying to keep upbeat about the whole thing. Sure glad I got starlink because otherwise I'd be miserable here.
You might try the Jeep guys first. Might as well, some of these folks are pretty good at getting out of trouble.
Always good to have options. If the Jeeps work in the same manner as SNORR that would be the direction I would go. Like I said before they are all about calculating what it needs. Is there any trees to pull from? It wont be quick however they do it. Also just thought about plastic. Wont allow it to dry out but if in place wont let any more rain accumulate. Pray for a cold snap. Also give you an idea on what they need $$$$. They are big on the synthetic ropes and gear. Amazing stuff. Ive learned a bunch in the past month. All of it is also expensive to buy.
unless the guy with the dually has some type of anchor that he can secure his truck to? Your coacch is much heavier and no matter how strong his winch is, he will slide in the mud. maybe there is a nearby LARGE tree he can anchor to?
Possibly a few jeeps hooked up in tandem may be all the assist that you need, hard to advise, always someone to "Monday morning quarterback" what you do anyway. Go with what you think is best.
I don't know the solve to your problem but do admire your ability to hang in there under a stressful situation. This too shall pass and you'll laugh about it someday just like I do with my little off roading incident.
He did say that he would anchor his truck and that sometimes he brings several others but indicated that it might be up to me to find that. Of course I have my Jeep Grand Cherokee but it's no use to me by myself. I still think that it won't take much to get out as long as the ground has some time to dry. Two strong days of sun will do it. I'm still going to call progressive and see if they'll pay for it but I'm thinking I'm going to go with the Jeep guys as well unless they can't get here it was a tentative thing. And that was through the off-road portal guys.
As far as trees to anchor to the big trees are in front of me and are no use for this situation. In front of those trees is wetter than behind me. And the ground is so uneven. My plan was to back up and then turn right to get out when I was going to leave.
I started the engine today and aired it up and tried to rock it back and forth a little today just to see if I could move it any and it didn't want to move because I put a big piece of wood underneath the front right tire and now it's acting like a stop so I got to try to get that out. Not enough traction with the back wheels to get over it. I got to trench the front out a little bit more and then I can try going forward 6 in. That would get the wood out. I thought about making a ramp by digging it out and then I could back it up and get that front passenger side tire out of the hole. I still think I'm going to need a pool though to do that with this amount of moisture on the ground.
Very unlikely insurance will pay.
Mine stopped coverage 100' off pavement Wouldn't pay. Farmer with tractor gave me very slight pull and I was out. Had to force him to take $100
Tim Fiedler
Few random comments/questions
1- As stated earlier, I'd call coachnet and let the waiting period pass, and use it if the Jeeps can't pull you. Since you plan on more off grid camping, it seems like use insurance IMO.
2- Do the Jeep folks require you signing a waiver for them releasing all liability?
3- If your coach is damaged, Progressive should cover that, but I wouldn't expect them to cover the extraction so far off
4- Please video the Jeep pull, partially for our entertainment, partially so you have a record should something happen and it's needed.
GL, I've been reading all posts. Glad you have a good Toad to get supplies. I too admire your patience and tenacity.
Im confident they require a waiver. They are a not for profit organization. Gratuity is welcomed. At SNORR they send a safety representative and a technical lead. The technical lead will take the weight of the vehical and the percentage that it is stuck to calculate the minimum required equipment to safely pull from the situation. Recoveries outside of these requirements results in termination in their community. They take pride in no damage recoveries. 34k plus 25% (guessing). 43k load. Three 13k winches and point to tether to may be maximum load. Yes probably less. But guessing at loads. Not on site so again just guessing. Again everyone should carry the portal number I listed prior. They are nation wide with many members. Many drive hours to help people in need👍👍
Looks like we have exhausted all our thoughts on this scenario. Good luck.
Sounds to me like the guy with the dual pu contacting you and wanting 2 or 3 k is an opportunity seeker with a hose and eager to use it on anyone. I'd use my toad to haul my water and ice for the cooler which you probably already are. I dislike someone who looks for people to rob. Of course I could easily be wrong because I can be over sensitive to characters. This will come to a close for you soon.
You could always buy a tow strap or two from Harbor Freight and then rent a truck/backhoe from HomeDepot or other rental companies and then pull it out. Can't be that hard.
Pierce
Pierce
I think he is camping alone, would be difficult without good help.
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I would call a rental shop and see if they have someone to help. Cash is always a good incentive. A backhoe will pull anything out so you just have to find one for rent in the area. Usually pretty easy.
When I did 817 feet of steep uphill concrete driveway, I went to the Safeway parking lot and hired 3 kids that were standing around. 5 days with those kids in 104 degree weather saved us $70K.
Pierce
Yeah when I drove into town the other day I kept the lookout for all the homes that had backhoes in there like in their yards. It's frustrating for sure but I've got guys coming on Thursday there's going to be 100 Jeeps here on Thursday for this event. Not me but a Jeep event and they're going to be more than happy to help he said because it's good practice for them. I did have to sign a waiver that I would not be responsible for anything. I understand that and I'm okay with it I'm asking them for help. I agree that the guy is an opportunist. The nearest home Depot is in Boise several hours away. I don't even know how to operate one of those. And it would be impossible to do it by myself as somebody needs to be in the driver seat steering and giving it some oomph.
It's very sunny today but it's supposed to rain tonight again. I did manage to get the coach to move forward a few inches and after about 40 minutes of working on it got the piece of wood out that was underneath the front right tire. Still no joy going back though the tires are just not really getting much traction.
Yeah I'm going to have to throw away all the food in my refrigerator but I did manage to save some in my booge RV fridge. Really glad I bought that thing. I'm thinking it's going to cost about six or seven hundred dollars the repair my fridge with a new danfoss compressor module so any money I can save getting out of here will be appreciated in a few days.
I will try to video tape it as I do have a Panasonic G5 in a small tripod but I will be in the driver's seat and will not really be able to do much in the way of zooming and paning.
I felt a little discouraged last night but then went to sleep and woke up feeling just fine. I'm sure I'll get out of this it's not really that big of a deal it's not like I'm buried to the hill and sand on the beach in the tide is coming in... I was in that situation once with my brand new Dodge dually pickup truck with a Cummins. Parked it on the beach and Olympic national Park and the next thing I knew the tide was coming in and I was stuck. Couldn't get to the rear tires to let the air out. Unfortunately there was some English tourists there on the beach and they help me collect Driftwood which ultimately gave me enough traction to get out. The surf was literally kissing my back tire is when we finally got out of there. Think that was a $60,000 truck back in 1999 maybe.
The luck of the Irish!
Thanks for your assistance and support. Means a lot.
We are all pulling for you.
I got stuck in the desert a little south of San Felipe in my old SOB. A guy in a Jeep came by, attached a line to the front, I put it in 1st and gave him some help. 30 seconds later, I was on hard sand.
I'm sure the Jeep owners will battle each other to be the one or two that pulls you out.
Yes, videos or at least photos! ^.^d
"Pulling" for you!
Pierce
Ever see the bolt to the wheel drums ? Pull yourself out.
A guy named Jeff with a big ass truck with a big winch is coming in an hour and a half to pull me out. He just wants money for fuel and I'll be happy to give it to him. Fingers crossed right now it's raining but it's going by really fast and the ground is fairly dry from most of the days sun.
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Heard Bob has escaped the trap . Sure he will follow up
Well Jeff was the bomb. He came in with a truck that he paid $4,000 for with a 30,000 pound winch on it. He had me out pretty much in no time. We ran straps around the back frame and he pulled me straight back until I was able to reverse myself.
I gave him all the money I had in the wallet which was $173 I believe he only wanted $150 but I really appreciate him.
Anyway thanks for everybody that had comments and suggestions they all were helpful and it's nice when you're out there you know that somebody's got your back even if they're a couple thousand miles away.
By the way craneman, the 2x4s did not work but I think the rope through the wheels may have. I wasn't really able to get it through the dual wheels and I didn't want to get mud up to my armpit, so I only put it through the outside wheel and it seemed to work pretty well.
Diligence and Perseverance is hard to beat! Glad it all worked out.
Glad you're back on hard ground 🥃
Great you got out.
All righty then. Congratulations. Now on to the refrigerator. Good luck.
Congrats Bob; glad it did not do any damage to your coach and that guy was able to pull you out. Good luck with the fridge!
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Congratulations on getting out of your little mud-trap, what a nice guy that Jeff is!
The 2x4 strapped to wheel trick wouldn't work on most of our units due to the very small clearance around the wheel well and the airbags. I don't know how much bigger that space is on the newer models but it's less than 1/2" on mine.
Congratulations Bob. You kept at it without major damage. We will have to hash it over around the campfire at Q this winter.
I'll be there!!
The idea wasn't to strap the 2x4s to the wheel just to wrap the rope around the wheel and then jam the 2x4 into the ground hoping that the wheel will catch it and lift up over it. It might have worked if I had somebody that could handle that or the driving part but by yourself it just kind of doesn't catch very well.
I couldn't get the rope through both duallys but that would have been a better plan but through one wheel I think it still helped. I don't know if Alcoa put those holes in the rims for that purpose but it worked for me.... I think lol.
We might be thinking of a different trick....
I like the idea of the rope version, probably easier than most too.
Here's the one I was thinking of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRxhvufvmw
Just make sure the 2 x 4's or whatever don't dent a fender or take out a brake line.