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Title: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: ViewRVs on July 09, 2023, 09:14:09 pm
When we use the kitchen sink for dishes and use lots of water, we are seeing air bubbling up in the tub/shower. My hunch is that the grey water vent stack is clogged. Thoughts? 
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: Pamela & Mike on July 09, 2023, 09:34:23 pm
More than likely the air admittance valve hid under the sink or the one in the wall that vents the shower tub. Never saw the stack plugged but that could also cause you a problem.

Mike
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: AC7880 on July 09, 2023, 11:45:15 pm
The more expensive Studor redi-vent AAV works better than the black ones with a rubber flap.

Sewer Odor, roof sewer vent, air admitance valves inside... (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=34106.0) 





Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: juicesqueezer on July 10, 2023, 08:21:00 am
Having changed many Studor vents out over the years, I have found that there is nothing wrong with the cheaper black ones sold at HD or Lowe's.  Have never replaced one that I installed due to lack of working!  Just an FYI.  Remember, you also have one behind where the washer/dryer sits as well as behind the commode and under the sink to make 3.  Some have 4, but never encountered that.  I would also get up on the roof, if able and check to see if you don't have a pipe coming out for a vent and a bird has built a nest on it.  Not sure if they didn't install the studor valves in your year of coach or not, but should have.
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: dsd on July 10, 2023, 09:07:59 am
I would also get up on the roof, if able and check to see if you don't have a pipe coming out for a vent and a bird has built a nest on it.
Mine was filled full of wasp nests. Original vent was in poor condition so I installed the 360 vent with good results.
Amazon.com: Lippert Components 389381 360 Siphon Roof Vent Cap - White (Gen... (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CZQ9Y6M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: juicesqueezer on July 10, 2023, 09:59:14 am
Mine was filled full of wasp nests. Original vent was in poor condition so I installed the 360 vent with good results.
Amazon.com: Lippert Components 389381 360 Siphon Roof Vent Cap - White (Gen... (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CZQ9Y6M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

Scott;  this was one of the cheapest add ons for our coach as well.  Works as it should!
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: AC7880 on July 10, 2023, 10:51:26 am
Having changed many Studor vents out over the years, I have found that there is nothing wrong with the cheaper black ones sold at HD or Lowe's.  Have never replaced one that I installed due to lack of working!  Just an FYI.  Remember, you also have one behind where the washer/dryer sits as well as behind the commode and under the sink to make 3.  Some have 4, but never encountered that.  I would also get up on the roof, if able and check to see if you don't have a pipe coming out for a vent and a bird has built a nest on it.  Not sure if they didn't install the studor valves in your year of coach or not, but should have.


5 AAV on my coach. Details in link above.
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: ViewRVs on July 10, 2023, 10:09:36 pm
Thanks for the replies.  I have some work to do.  :)
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: ViewRVs on September 21, 2023, 08:30:09 pm
The more expensive Studor redi-vent AAV works better than the black ones with a rubber flap.

We went with the more expensive Studor vents (4). $100 vs $44.  I figure that one hour at most RV shops is $165 per hour. I just spent the savings on better vents.  :D  They appear to have resolved the issue. We've only used it a few time but the initial results are good.
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: AC7880 on September 21, 2023, 09:25:52 pm
We went with the more expensive Studor vents (4). $100 vs $44.  I figure that one hour at most RV shops is $165 per hour. I just spent the savings on better vents.  :D  They appear to have resolved the issue. We've only used it a few time but the initial results are good.

Also try flushing out the pipes from the kitchen sink. They are shallow and over time can build up some debris in them.  Fill both sides kitchen sink to the top, then pull the drain plugs at the same time. Repeat 4 or 5 times to flush out the pipe completely. 


 If you do this when the grey tank dump valve is closed, it will likely bubble up in the shower. With grey dump valve open, less likely to bubble up in shower.
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: Barry & Cindy on September 21, 2023, 11:34:27 pm
Running a dedicted water hose into coach window every time when dumping will aid in flushing all drains. Also helps when cleaning toilet.
Title: Re: Air bublling up in the tub drain when using kitchen sink
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on September 26, 2023, 05:00:29 pm
I had a smell coming from this kitchen sink that I couldn't place. I use a strainer and try to keep that clean. I put a flashlight down the sink drain and realize that there was an awful lot of junk down there. I don't know what junk it was cuz I didn't pull it up to look at it but filled it with a degreaser and used a chopstick to clean it out while flushing with hot water.
Since I boondock a lot, I try to use the least amount of water possible. Maybe not a great idea.
Smell is gone.
Having the vents in working condition for the plumbing system makes a big deal I found. Unfortunately for me when the previous owner had AM solar put in batteries where the splendid washer was, that meant that I had no access anymore to that area. What I had to do was going through the top cabinet and there was only a couple inches and I found that someone chose to just seal off the vent hole instead of replacing it. I had a lot of smell coming from that. New vent installed and problem went away. I do want to put a hose up on the roof and down my 360 vent that I installed a few years ago to make sure that the pipes are all clean. One of these days I'll do it.