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Title: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: bobkathy95 on September 28, 2023, 07:11:48 pm
The design of our U295 is such that when the door opens - the one step pops/opens out.  Works fine.  No issues.  The problem is the wife, with her short legs, finds it very difficult to go from the exterior step to the first step inside the coach.  It is 13 inches up from the exterior step the the first step in the coach.  Surely others have had the same issue.  Greatly appreciate any help in fixing this.  Thank
Title: Re: Entry step height from ground - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on September 29, 2023, 07:24:24 am
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Title: Re: Entry step height from ground - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: oldmattb on September 29, 2023, 08:34:17 am
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Title: Re: Entry step height from ground - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Moby on September 29, 2023, 08:45:12 am
If I'm reading correctly, it's not the height from ground to first step that's the issue, but first step to coach.
An I right?
Title: Re: Entry step height from ground - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Zach on September 29, 2023, 11:03:33 am
Do you have a picture of this exterior step? I just measured mine and it's at about 10 inches. I haven't seen a step that is different than mine.
Title: Re: Entry step height from ground - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Elliott on September 29, 2023, 11:18:51 am
13" does seem high according to my mental ruler that's known for being highly inaccurate. There's not much magic to the steps, they're just wood boards that can be repositioned with a bit of elbow grease. Lot's of good pictures here to show you what it looks like under the covers: Another entry step rebuild (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=44282.msg448066#msg448066)
Title: Re: Entry step height from ground - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Barry & Cindy on September 29, 2023, 11:47:02 am
Not aware of anyone facing this, but because the outside flip down step is a fixed height and the first inside bottom step is fixed from the steel frame, I could see placing something permanently placed on top of outside step that does not interfere with step closing to decrease the distance between top of outside step and first inside step.

Then follow up with one of the common ideas others have had to make it easier to step up onto folding step.

FYI the oem design is when ignition is off, outside drop down step stays down all the time. When ignition is on, step is up until door is opened, then while door is open, step is down.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Michelle on September 29, 2023, 01:00:30 pm
If I'm reading correctly, it's not the height from ground to first step that's the issue, but first step to coach.
An I right?


After re-reading the post (it was a reply to an older topic on entry step rebuilding that I split into its own discussion), I believe you are correct.  I've edited the title I gave this new topic to remove my initial misreading of the question.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Pamela & Mike on September 29, 2023, 05:43:15 pm
After reading this several times I wonder if the OP coach has had a step upgrade and the center step section isn't extending. On some of the step mods that has 2 steps that distance would be about rite.

Mike
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: bobkathy95 on September 29, 2023, 05:46:06 pm
Thanks for the replies - yes, it is the height of the first step.  Try stepping up 13" every time you get into the coach.  It gets old really quick.  I have included a picture to help illustrate.

 



 


Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Pamela & Mike on September 29, 2023, 05:50:26 pm
Wel the pic. shoots the step upgrade theory. I have never measured our step height.

Mike 
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Moby on September 29, 2023, 07:35:44 pm
You can just add a 2x8 plank on top of the swing out step.
Wrap in carpet to make it look better, remove from step when not needed.
My SO is a double amp and this is how we help her climb in.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Herb Stark on September 30, 2023, 08:08:47 am
Check the angle iron bracket holding the air operated step assembly.  When I bought my coach the original air operated steps had the problem you are now having.  The angle iron bracket had sagged and made the step approximately 13 inches to the entry.  I made a carpeted block similar to as described above to lay on the step so Willie could get into the coach until I changed out the steps at Extreme to their electric replacement.  Not a cheap fix, but we are well pleased and love our new steps.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: bobkathy95 on October 01, 2023, 01:13:22 pm
Thanks Herb.  No the step does not sag.  It opens level.  The hardware (brackets,etc.) seem to be normal. The picture is a little deceiving. Every coach we have had - 13 inch rise is a two step system.  Maybe previous owner changed it. We have no way of knowing. As Senior's, who are not tall - this is becoming a real ordeal. The fun part is stepping down 13 inches onto a narrow step without losing balance. 
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Herb Stark on October 01, 2023, 04:26:01 pm
Well I took our coach to Extreme and  told them we had to have near code steps around 10.5 inch maximum.  Both of us ar 5' 4" and we would not want a vehicle with 13 inch steps.  We are pleased with Extreme.  We also carry a sturdy adjustable 4 legged platform stool if we have to have the front higher to level.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: bobkathy95 on October 01, 2023, 05:01:22 pm
Thanks Heb.  But who or where is Extreme?  Was MOT unable to help?  We are in Central Florida.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on October 01, 2023, 06:37:52 pm
Xtreme is in Nacogdoches. Many (including us) feel they do amazing body work and paint.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Rudy on October 01, 2023, 09:25:43 pm
Xtreme Paint and Graphics, 7515 North St, Nacodoches, TX 75965, 936/560-5888.  The very best body and paint repair especially for Foretravels.  Outstanding upgrades for several things such as headlights and steps.
Title: Re: Entry step height - any tips for making it easier?
Post by: Herb Stark on October 02, 2023, 07:19:19 am
Extreme Paint and Graphics step conversion:

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