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Title: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: FourTravelers on July 28, 2024, 10:04:37 am
After our last trip, I noticed some water in the wet bay. Traced it down to the 1/2" female connection on the bottom of the tank that connects to the water pump. It's a glued in fitting at the very bottom, appears to have a split from over tightening the male adapter and the Teflon tape used for sealing the fitting probably contributed to this. This coupled with thousands of miles traveling on our pot-hole filled interstates.

Any suggestions on a fix? Short of pulling the tank for repair or replacement. JB plastic weld? Flexseal caulk?
Can the fitting be removed and a new one installed?
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: wolfe10 on July 28, 2024, 10:13:33 am
Can't help with your specific question, but be sure to "mop up" any water that spills in there or it will get into the rear bulkhead structure and cause damage.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: John44 on July 28, 2024, 10:20:53 am
Any chance for a picture.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: FourTravelers on July 28, 2024, 10:32:38 am
I'll get a few photos later this morning.

Removing and replacing a spin weld fitting doesn't appear to be a option without removing the tank.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: Doug W. on July 28, 2024, 11:24:11 am
Had the same fitting crack on my 96 about 10yrs. ago while in Quartzsite/Yuma for the Winter. I pushed the tank out from passenger side to drivers side since the hot water tank is installed on that side in front of the tank. Using a length of 2×4 and block against the tank I  pushed the tank out far enough to grab hold and pull out from drivers side. Luckily I found a RV repair shop locally that was able to spin weld a new fitting on for 20 bucks. Hardest thing was reconnecting overfill hose, had to add a length of hose as to have enough room between hot water and fresh tank to make connection.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on July 28, 2024, 11:55:53 am
Three armchair solutions (that don't require tank R&I) come to mind:

1.  If your tank is like ours, you have two water pipes exiting the tank in that area - one to supply the pump, and the other is a drain line.  You could seal off the cracked female fitting with some kind of expanding rubber plug combined with a waterproof sealing cement.  Then install a "T" fitting in the adjacent drain pipe and run a new supply line off the "T" to the water pump.

2.  If the crack in the female fitting is only in the threaded area, and doesn't extend up into the welded base, then you could try screwing in a permanent male/female threaded adapter using some kind of waterproof sealing cement.  If there is room on the neck of the (cracked) female connection you could also install a narrow metal hose clamp that (when tightened) would close up the crack in the female fitting and tighten up the threads.  See photo of adapter below.

3.  If the crack in the female fitting goes past the threaded area and extends into the welded base, then you could remove the fitting using a 1.25" hole saw.  Install a 1/2" UNISEAL in the 1.25" hole, then push a 1/2" PVC or PEX pipe into the UNISEAL and go from there.  I used a UNISEAL to make a "quick fill" adapter on our water tank.  It works great, and has never leaked, BUT it is normally above the top of the water level, and is only exposed to water sloshing around when the tank is full.  Link below (Reply #29):

What did you do to your coach today VII (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=33153.msg301076#msg301076)

1/2'' White Original UNISEAL - aussieglobe.com (https://www.aussieglobe.com/12-White_Uniseal-U050-W.html)

Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: turbojack on July 28, 2024, 02:07:10 pm
If Crack is not into the base, I like the hose clamp idea from above post.

Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: oldguy on July 28, 2024, 02:11:42 pm
I'm with the hose clamp idea also.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: Doug W. on July 28, 2024, 02:36:20 pm
I'm with the hose clamp idea also.

I did the hose clamp fix while I spent a week or so in Quartzsite, for me it was not 100% leak free fix.

Mine had a small plastic filter about
 2 inches long that slipped into the fitting.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: FourTravelers on July 28, 2024, 08:15:21 pm
Had the same fitting crack on my 96 about 10yrs. ago while in Quartzsite/Yuma for the Winter. I pushed the tank out from passenger side to drivers side since the hot water tank is installed on that side in front of the tank. Using a length of 2×4 and block against the tank I  pushed the tank out far enough to grab hold and pull out from drivers side. Luckily I found a RV repair shop locally that was able to spin weld a new fitting on for 20 bucks. Hardest thing was reconnecting overfill hose, had to add a length of hose as to have enough room between hot water and fresh tank to make connection.

I may have to remove the tank, it appears that the door and trim will need to be removed before the tank will slide out. I'll try to repair the fitting first with either a JB weld product or another product called MMA 500 for polymer plastics.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: FourTravelers on July 28, 2024, 08:16:03 pm
I did the hose clamp fix while I spent a week or so in Quartzsite, for me it was not 100% leak free fix.

Mine had a small plastic filter about
 2 inches long that slipped into the fitting.

I have tried the hose clamp trick with a GOOP sealant, It didn't work.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: FourTravelers on July 30, 2025, 08:12:48 pm
I'm renewing this old thread, similar problem, a new leak seems to have appeared. Much smaller leak but enough that I have to figure it out. The old leak at the female fitting outlet to the pump was repaired with Flex Glue and Flex Seal. It appears to be holding up and no sign of leaking from there. Moisture / water appears to be coming from the bottom of the tank or from behind the aluminum bracket that keeps the tank from moving to the passenger side of the bay. Not sure, so my plan is to remove the tank soon to find out.

I leaning strongly towards replacing the tank with a new one. It's a pain to remove I'm sure so might as well install a new one and be done with it.  After 30 years of bouncing down our raggedy @$$ interstates, it's time to retire this one. Problem is........... finding a new one. Elkhart Plastics at one time stocked the exact tank (207 W) 102 gallon. According to their Rep. they no longer sell it to the general public and it's only available by special order of at least 10 units. Unless there are nine more members interested in a new tank?? I will need a "Plan B".

If anyone knows of another source of this tank, please let me know!
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: craneman on July 30, 2025, 08:32:40 pm
Check with other tank manufacturers. I had one made for my '81 by a company that made one off tanks by measurement. I am not at home out on vacation. When I get home and if you are still looking I will dig up the receipt and post the manufacturer. It is in Southern Cal.
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: Ted_L on July 30, 2025, 09:49:56 pm
Get a hole saw big enough to cut the whole fitting out and use a Uniseal Pipe-to-tank seal then some reducing fittings to get back down to size.    I have one on my tank and it's actually fascinating how easy and well it works.  Once you use one, you'll question why the welded fittings even exist.
https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=89951&srsltid=AfmBOopkAhxFXWbGhewhL6uhD-S1eQzOHGCoTAEFRhg0MaGeFBS6qntl
Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: FourTravelers on July 30, 2025, 10:09:03 pm
Get a hole saw big enough to cut the whole fitting out and use a Uniseal Pipe-to-tank seal then some reducing fittings to get back down to size.    I have one on my tank and it's actually fascinating how easy and well it works.  Once you use one, you'll question why the welded fittings even exist.
https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=89951&srsltid=AfmBOopkAhxFXWbGhewhL6uhD-S1eQzOHGCoTAEFRhg0MaGeFBS6qntl

It appears to be leaking from somewhere other than the fitting now.

Title: Re: Freshwater Tank Leak
Post by: "Irish" on August 04, 2025, 09:48:56 pm
Try searching plastic tank fabrication and your city, will probably be a handful of companies listed. They have plastic welders, used one 30 years ago to weld damaged marina dock floats. They are still in use and it was a fairly cheap repair, did it while I waited. good luck!