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Title: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: Farrarkc on August 10, 2024, 06:01:20 pm
Hi all,

Some history, I replaced the air dryer with the recommended Napa reman just a couple years ago but it seems it have failed. I have not dug into it much yet but am hoping I can get some assistance on creating a list of things to do. The issue has shown itself when I engage the parking brake and white dust blows up like smoke.
I have heard this is a tedious task to repair but I am hoping I can get it done so I can use the bus this fall. Any help is much appreciated!!
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: wolfe10 on August 10, 2024, 06:05:58 pm
Is there any white powder when you open the wet tank drain, or is the white powder just coming out the air dryer purge valve?
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: Farrarkc on August 10, 2024, 06:13:09 pm
I have not checked anything yet. Thought I would seek advise before jumping into this.
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: dsd on August 10, 2024, 06:17:19 pm
The dryer need the desiccant filter replaced annually
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: wolfe10 on August 10, 2024, 06:24:05 pm
The dryer need the desiccant filter replaced annually

IMO, that may be a bit excessive. Every three years is the common recommendation unless you drive a LOT of miles or operate in very humid conditions most of the time.

OP, suggest you do not start the engine until you verify whether there is any desiccant in the wet tank.  Operating the coach can continue to spread the desiccant throughout the air system.
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on August 10, 2024, 06:48:11 pm
The issue has shown itself when I engage the parking brake and white dust blows up like smoke.
White dust blows up like smoke from where, exactly?

Are you saying that white dust blows out from under the dash in front of the driver seat?  If that is the case, then you do have a potential major problem.

The PP-1 parking brake valve is practically at the end of the air system (farthest away from the air dryer).

Please give us more details about the symptoms you are observing.
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: Farrarkc on August 10, 2024, 06:52:50 pm
Yes, from under the dash.

I have not done anything as of yet to confirm much more knowing I likely have an issue. Probably on 15k miles on this dryer over the past 3 years. Guess I needed to change the filter sooner.

The dust when parking brake is engaged has been the only symptom I have noticed.


White dust blows up like smoke from where, exactly?

Are you saying that white dust blows out from under the dash in front of the driver seat?  If that is the case, then you do have a major problem.  The PP-1 parking brake valve is practically at the end of the air system farthest from the air dryer.

Please give us more details about the symptoms you are observing.
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: Farrarkc on August 10, 2024, 06:55:25 pm
Can I verify anything in the wet tank without starting the engine and charging the air system back up?

IMO, that may be a bit excessive. Every three years is the common recommendation unless you drive a LOT of miles or operate in very humid conditions most of the time.

OP, suggest you do not start the engine until you verify whether there is any desiccant in the wet tank.  Operating the coach can continue to spread the desiccant throughout the air system.
Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on August 10, 2024, 07:05:58 pm
Yes, from under the dash.
The dust when parking brake is engaged has been the only symptom I have noticed.
I should have said potential major problem.  In order for desiccant powder to migrate as far as the parking brake valve it must have traveled through several valves, check valves, air tanks, and air lines.  If you haven't noticed any other strange symptoms from your air system, you may luck out.  Sometimes most of the errant powder will settle out in the bottom of the air tanks, perhaps mix with a little moisture into a paste, and cause few problems.

You can do a search on the Forum for posts dealing with desiccant contamination of the air system and ways other members have dealt with the problem.  I listed a couple threads below to get you started:

Desiccant powder in air system - anybody else with this experience? (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=18448)

2003 U320 - Phase 2 of Desiccant Powder Cleanup Complete (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=19850)


Title: Re: Air dryer issue/ next steps
Post by: Farrarkc on August 10, 2024, 09:25:15 pm
Thank you!

I should have said potential major problem.  In order for desiccant powder to migrate as far as the parking brake valve it must have traveled through several valves, check valves, air tanks, and air lines.  If you haven't noticed any other strange symptoms from your air system, you may luck out.  Sometimes most of the errant powder will settle out in the bottom of the air tanks, perhaps mix with a little moisture into a paste, and cause few problems.

You can do a search on the Forum for posts dealing with desiccant contamination of the air system and ways other members have dealt with the problem.  I listed a couple threads below to get you started:

Desiccant powder in air system - anybody else with this experience? (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=18448)

2003 U320 - Phase 2 of Desiccant Powder Cleanup Complete (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=19850)