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Title: aux air tank leak
Post by: danilaprepeleac on September 13, 2024, 11:21:53 pm
I am getting bolder into tackling some leaks and the aux tank is leaking right at the weld where that 1/4 goes in.

Can I reweld that or just get new tank(does anyone have a part number or a place where won't cost an arm and the other leg)
Also looking for a place where I can buy the air line fittings at an affordable price please share any suggestions looking for the ones that don't leak.
A friend of mine told me to get the treaded ones I would appreciate some help with parts if anyone know something.
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: turbojack on September 14, 2024, 01:15:23 pm
I would get a new tank.

I get my air fittings from Fleetpride.  I try to the the compression fittings since I don't think they will ever leak like the push on ones do.

There has been some discussion on here about replacing tanks.  Might do a search to see if you can find them.
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: Michelle on September 14, 2024, 02:07:53 pm
Can I reweld that or just get new tank(does anyone have a part number or a place where won't cost an arm and the other leg)


Per the 2003 U320 parts manual (in the Files section), here are the relevant pages with part numbers/descriptions if you're talking about the skinny tank for the slide bladders.

Not sure who the vendor was, but it shows just the tank as having part number 8001 1 EA AIR TANK, 8" X 32", SLIDEOUT



Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: danilaprepeleac on September 14, 2024, 08:17:54 pm
After more research I found this 2 tanks

This one is the more expensive and it has the correct mounts and ports  and orientation I guess it's called a smiley face tank
So this one looks identical to the one I have on the FT

Tramec Sloan 461026 Air Brake Reservoir + Cross Reference | FinditParts (https://www.finditparts.com/products/2042738/tramec-sloan-461026)

This one is cheaper and it does have an extra port on the face of it
Original has one this one has 2 which can be plugged np.
Fontaine Magnitude Lowboy Air Tank 51475007 | ILoca Services, Inc. (https://semitrailers.net/shop/fontaine-magnitude-lowboy-air-tank-51475007-ht-8022/)

Am I missing something??
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: oldguy on September 14, 2024, 09:11:41 pm
I don't know what shape your tank is but I would weld a tank that is in good shape.
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: dsd on September 15, 2024, 12:02:43 am
Very common for a weld to leak at the end of the weld do to porosity or cooling. Leaves a little hole that may leak. May check good then start leaking years later. Not corrosion related I would weld
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: danilaprepeleac on September 15, 2024, 12:02:14 pm
Very common for a weld to leak at the end of the weld do to porosity or cooling. Leaves a little hole that may leak. May check good then start leaking years later. Not corrosion related I would weld
I guess I have to take to front port off and check for extensive corrosion
On the other hand to weld is another labor intensive process if you are like me and don't have a welder and have to go to someone that can weld.
Even then the process of taking the tank off clean area ,weld,repaint and reinstall  not sure if it's gonna hold and I may end up spending more time and money at the end.
I don't think that you can weld the tank in place without removing it.
 Also when I was spraying the tank while it was under pressure I was noticing like a mist jet  coming from the area

My fitting is leaking and I will change that and then see if the problem persists
The problem is that the lines are so tight that there is no slack
They say to clip a bit of the line  when you open it and it creates a little recesed  ring to clip it so the next time you push it in it goes past it but if I do that the line will be stretched where it will tug on the connection itself
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: MarkC on September 15, 2024, 03:30:13 pm
You may want to look getting at a roll of DOT Brake Line and a DOT Brake Line Fitting Kit.  Depending on where the lines go, you can just run a new line with a little slack and new fittings.
Good quality lines and fittings are relatively easy to work with and just need basic tools.
Then you'll know you have new lines and fittings and done right.
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: danilaprepeleac on September 15, 2024, 06:43:48 pm
You may want to look getting at a roll of DOT Brake Line and a DOT Brake Line Fitting Kit.  Depending on where the lines go, you can just run a new line with a little slack and new fittings.
Good quality lines and fittings are relatively easy to work with and just need basic tools.
Then you'll know you have new lines and fittings and done right.

I ordered me some compression kit and lines from Amazon (mainly cause I don't know a local supplier that is affordable and most of the trucking industry stores and suppliers are some 20 miles away and without a commercial account everyone wants full price)once here I will run them to my Mechanic to have him take a look and approve 
Every time I open one of those push to connect it kind of compromises the seal and needs to be shortened .
I don't necessarily like Amazon but for the price and convenience it's an option that I find myself go to more often.

Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: Sven and Kristi on September 16, 2024, 12:36:06 am
I had a similar problem but with a pin hole leak at the bottom of the tank; the lower part of the tank had rusted on the inside, since the tank had no drain valve.  After a lot of looking, I found an aluminum tank that works great and is an improvement on the original since it is rust proof and has a drain valve port.  I've attached photos of tank and invoice.  Good luck.
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: danilaprepeleac on September 16, 2024, 12:17:15 pm
I had a similar problem but with a pin hole leak at the bottom of the tank; the lower part of the tank had rusted on the inside, since the tank had no drain valve.  After a lot of looking, I found an aluminum tank that works great and is an improvement on the original since it is rust proof and has a drain valve port.  I've attached photos of tank and invoice.  Good luck.
Swen
The tank that I am talking about is underneath the coach right behind the generator  it's a little bigger than the one that you have posted

I will call this guys to see if they have a bigger one I like the aluminum idea
I am trying to attach pics but I don't see the attach icon here
I will have to get under the coach and see if the straps idea is viable but the tank you have is smaller and that will call for more often generator starts.

Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: oldguy on September 17, 2024, 02:53:00 pm
You need to press reply to find the place to download pictures
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: wolfe10 on September 17, 2024, 03:01:11 pm
You need to press reply to find the place to download pictures

Just go to "Forum Instruction Manual"-- several good posts on how to post pictures.
Title: Re: aux air tank leak
Post by: steve on September 17, 2024, 10:21:43 pm
I am trying to attach pics but I don't see the attach icon here
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