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Title: Muffler
Post by: 18360 on September 27, 2024, 12:19:34 pm
I replaced my muffler.  I got the replacement from FT.  It is different than the old one.
We had to do some fabrication to make it work.
The only problem is that it sounds louder when I am accelerating.
Brad from FT said this is the one they are using now.

Any comments
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: wolfe10 on September 27, 2024, 03:06:41 pm
Louder generally means less restriction= more power/faster turbo spool up.

Many have moved from the OE very heavy muffler to less restrictive ones.

What make/model are you installing?
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: 18360 on September 27, 2024, 05:02:01 pm
It was an Aero brand.  Not sure of any more specifics.

Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: Phranko on September 27, 2024, 05:19:16 pm
Pictures?
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: rbark on September 27, 2024, 05:25:13 pm
Aero 50/50? Some of us here have installed thoes.
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: 18360 on September 27, 2024, 05:52:14 pm
Here is the muffler and tailpipe.  It was still under wraps at that point.  We had to shorten the tail pipe and used about 4 90 degree elbows and one 15 degree.  He welded the 3 90 together and used the 15 degree to position the tailpipe out the back.
My chrome pipe at the end was also rusted.  So we just used the curved end of the tailpipe out the  back.
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: Michelle on September 27, 2024, 06:26:31 pm
Aero 50/50? Some of us here have installed those.

And if it's a little too loud for you, the Magnaflow is a touch more civilized.

If you search the forum for "resonator" you can read more about the different installations and impressions.  (spoiler - we originally had an Aero 5050 installed on our '03 and swapped for a "Magnaflow Performance Exhaust 12774 Stainless Steel Muffler; 7 in. Round Body").

Looks like the 'Zon has a decent price on the Magnaflow we used  Amazon.com: MagnaFlow 7in Round Center/Center Performance Muffler 12774 -... (https://www.amazon.com/MagnaFlow-Exhaust-Products-12774-Muffler/dp/B000XQO0ZM)
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: 18360 on September 27, 2024, 06:47:16 pm
I have saved that for future reference, if the sound gets on my nerves.

Thanks
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: MarkC on September 27, 2024, 09:07:56 pm
Michelle, can you give an idea of the sound difference between the Aero and Magnaflow?  I am just getting ready to remove the giant muffler and go the resonator route and have been hesitant because I'm not sure which is the quietest, or maybe better said, least loudest.
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: Michelle on September 27, 2024, 09:31:44 pm
Magnaflow is definitely quieter than the Aero 5050XL.  Still throaty, but we no longer cringed driving past the neighborhood softball field when a game was in progress. 
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: dsd on September 28, 2024, 06:55:43 am
Michelle, can you give an idea of the sound difference between the Aero and Magnaflow?  I am just getting ready to remove the giant muffler and go the resonator route and have been hesitant because I'm not sure which is the quietest, or maybe better said, least loudest.
Just a note. The magnaflow 5" actually necks down to 4" inside. I installed on mine and it is noticeable louder yet undetectable inside the coach. Will notice going through tunnels or next to walls with the windows open. For me it seems okay and the reduced heat mass definitely is noticeable after shut down. If needed I would replace with the same again. Hope that helps.
Ism exhaust resonator options (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=42354.0)
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: hdff on September 28, 2024, 04:56:36 pm
The PO had installed an arrow 50-50 on my coach when we got it. It is louder, but I cannot hear it sitting in the driver seat unless I'm next to a concrete wall or in a tunnel so it is tolerable. One thing for sure I won't be sneaking out of the campground unnoticed, but I try my best to be a good neighbor when I leave. I have no complaints with it. The bedroom does seem cooler when we get stopped.


Keith
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: Caflashbob on September 28, 2024, 05:47:55 pm
The aero 50/50 is 5" all the way through.  Noticeable increase in low and mid rpm torque. M11 used to downshift a lot under load.  Changing the cooling fan controller to not have the fan run at full high speed all the time freed up up to 50+ hp then the less back pressure resonator added to the low power and changed the way the coach drove for the better.  Plus around 1+mpg. 
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: AdventureSofie on September 28, 2024, 06:42:47 pm
The aero 50/50 is 5" all the way through.  Noticeable increase in low and mid rpm torque. M11 used to downshift a lot under load.  Changing the cooling fan controller to not have the fan run at full high speed all the time freed up up to 50+ hp then the less back pressure resonator added to the low power and changed the way the coach drove for the better.  Plus around 1+mpg.

What change did you make to the cooling fan controller?
Title: Re: Muffler
Post by: dsd on September 28, 2024, 07:18:11 pm
What change did you make to the cooling fan controller?
Not Bob but this kinda covers it
Hydraulic fan controller DIY (https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=41024.0)