Title: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 11:21:05 am
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 11:21:05 am
And so it begins
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 12:53:20 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 12:53:20 pm
Is that a full body paint with windows still installed?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 01:02:07 pm
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 01:02:07 pm
Yes it will be FBP.
The windows will be fully removed and new gaskets installed. We do have a couple with mild snaking that will be repaired as well.
Currently its getting its initial gel coat sanding. They started by removing all of the other parts, ladders, lights, awnings, wipers, decals, etc.
The windows will be fully removed and new gaskets installed. We do have a couple with mild snaking that will be repaired as well.
Currently its getting its initial gel coat sanding. They started by removing all of the other parts, ladders, lights, awnings, wipers, decals, etc.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Kiwitex on February 13, 2025, 01:45:58 pm
Post by: Kiwitex on February 13, 2025, 01:45:58 pm
Best of luck, how long does this project take roughly?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 06:02:35 pm
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 06:02:35 pm
how long does this project take roughly?
Here are today's updates, see they did remove the windows !
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 06:10:10 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 06:10:10 pm
With Windows & mirrors off, we decided to replace with new, Motion Windows and paintable 3-motor mirrors & base.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 06:22:57 pm
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 06:22:57 pm
Had not considered that ... did you go with the Elite Series 1800? Were they pretty much a drop in replacement or were some modifications needed inside/outside?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 08:27:58 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 08:27:58 pm
Drop in windows and no problems over the next decade.
Not sure about the Elite series, but have attached order details. Also a blown-up section with order details.
We did reuse awnings. Also installed different over door LED lamp and all new LED marker lights.
Also rewired both new mirror motors with third dash switch, with each switch controlling top, middle, or bottom mirrors. While it is nice to be able adjust mirrors, after set they were never moved again, so a manual adjustment would be just fine without all the wiring changes.
Our choices was driven by: with everything removed, can we improve things by replacing with new rather than replacing old.
BTW, as full-timers, Xtreme gave us temporary no-extra charge, nice living in their next door home for over a month while coach was in the shop. We rented space in a storage facility down the road a few miles away to store lots of bay and roof stuff. We also used Xtreme to lift up a new home refrigerator while side window was out, and remove old propane fridge.
Rance also modified rear engine door with his clever light-weight, hinged top design, and repaired bay door and roof things.
Not sure about the Elite series, but have attached order details. Also a blown-up section with order details.
We did reuse awnings. Also installed different over door LED lamp and all new LED marker lights.
Also rewired both new mirror motors with third dash switch, with each switch controlling top, middle, or bottom mirrors. While it is nice to be able adjust mirrors, after set they were never moved again, so a manual adjustment would be just fine without all the wiring changes.
Our choices was driven by: with everything removed, can we improve things by replacing with new rather than replacing old.
BTW, as full-timers, Xtreme gave us temporary no-extra charge, nice living in their next door home for over a month while coach was in the shop. We rented space in a storage facility down the road a few miles away to store lots of bay and roof stuff. We also used Xtreme to lift up a new home refrigerator while side window was out, and remove old propane fridge.
Rance also modified rear engine door with his clever light-weight, hinged top design, and repaired bay door and roof things.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: AC7880 on February 13, 2025, 08:50:10 pm
Post by: AC7880 on February 13, 2025, 08:50:10 pm
And so it begins
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 08:52:38 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 08:52:38 pm
At Xtreme?
Exactly
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 09:05:12 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 09:05:12 pm
Drop in windows and no problems over the next decade.
Not sure about the Elite series, but have attached order details. Also a blown-up section with order details.
Perfect - thank you!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 09:06:41 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 09:06:41 pm
New Ramco mirror notes:
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 09:08:48 pm
Post by: steve on February 13, 2025, 09:08:48 pm
@Barry & Cindy thank you for sharing those details, greatly appreciated ...Yes the elite is the 1800 series.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 09:24:55 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 09:24:55 pm
We removed solar panels, roof storage pod, stored them in rented storage place.
Xtreme patched all roof holes, painted with one-step paint that had grit and clear-coat in the white paint. Grit worked VERY well to improve safety on roof.
We later remounted solar and storage pod little differently than original layout with improved cable runs.
New hinged engine door did not support original aluminum lower tube ladder section, but we did replace top ladder section to aid in safely climbing onto roof. To reach roof ladder section and clean sides, we used an 8' regular aluminum Lowes A-ladder that was stored on edge in big bay with 1" to spare on touching inside edges of bay doors. Aluminum ladder has a narrower bottom width than better, insulated, types of A-ladders.
Xtreme patched all roof holes, painted with one-step paint that had grit and clear-coat in the white paint. Grit worked VERY well to improve safety on roof.
We later remounted solar and storage pod little differently than original layout with improved cable runs.
New hinged engine door did not support original aluminum lower tube ladder section, but we did replace top ladder section to aid in safely climbing onto roof. To reach roof ladder section and clean sides, we used an 8' regular aluminum Lowes A-ladder that was stored on edge in big bay with 1" to spare on touching inside edges of bay doors. Aluminum ladder has a narrower bottom width than better, insulated, types of A-ladders.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 09:30:23 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 13, 2025, 09:30:23 pm
You are welcome, Steve & Michelle, nice to be able to support you with parts of our personal experiences.
Good luck on all that needs yet to be finalized. May want to find a secret personalization painted somewhere on the coach that most would not be aware of.
We also bought a new Trimark upgraded model, outside-door lighted grab bar.
Good luck on all that needs yet to be finalized. May want to find a secret personalization painted somewhere on the coach that most would not be aware of.
We also bought a new Trimark upgraded model, outside-door lighted grab bar.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michael Riensche on February 13, 2025, 09:50:56 pm
Post by: Michael Riensche on February 13, 2025, 09:50:56 pm
How exciting. I hope it's a wonderful journey :)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 09:56:15 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 13, 2025, 09:56:15 pm
May want to find a secret personalization painted somewhere on the coach that most would not be aware of.
The WildEBeest approves of this suggestion ;)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: turbojack on February 14, 2025, 09:00:45 am
Post by: turbojack on February 14, 2025, 09:00:45 am
By the time you get done you are going to have a new coach.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: stevej on February 14, 2025, 09:58:57 am
Post by: stevej on February 14, 2025, 09:58:57 am
I'm really happy to see you doing this and can't wait to see the result.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Peter on February 14, 2025, 11:34:31 am
Post by: Peter on February 14, 2025, 11:34:31 am
If you care to share a "ballpark" cost for the makeover it would be appreciated, as I have the same agenda on my radar to remove decals, painted "swoops" and a headlight upgrade
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 14, 2025, 02:40:33 pm
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 14, 2025, 02:40:33 pm
Just made an appointment to drop ours off in June for headlight conversion and step conversion...
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Dakota Slim on February 14, 2025, 07:31:27 pm
Post by: Dakota Slim on February 14, 2025, 07:31:27 pm
It's great to see 20+ year old Foretravels getting makeovers. It's a testament to the quality of these coaches.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 14, 2025, 07:54:59 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 14, 2025, 07:54:59 pm
If you care to share a "ballpark" cost for the makeover it would be appreciated, as I have the same agenda on my radar to remove decals, painted "swoops" and a headlight upgrade
I get the question completely, but that's something that needs to be answered by Xtreme. Each coach is unique given age and condition, and they really need to assess it on an individual basis. Ours is much different in scope, both starting point (our decals were already gone) and what the overall project encompasses (full body paint, lots of other enhancements/upgrades), than what you're considering.
By the time you get done you are going to have a new coach.
^.^d :D
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 14, 2025, 10:53:41 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 14, 2025, 10:53:41 pm
Think Full Body Paint is about $20,000
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 15, 2025, 07:22:49 am
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 15, 2025, 07:22:49 am
I am taking my 1999 U295 in June for headlight upgrade. It's about $5000. But every coach is different and depends on fog lights, painting required, Etc.. Xtreme would be the place to call .
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on February 15, 2025, 10:28:00 am
Post by: steve on February 15, 2025, 10:28:00 am
A few more pictures.
They removed the main awning, side mirrors, rad/cac vent, remaining decals ... not much left to remove at this point.
There were two areas that needed a little fiberglass work, lower passenger front (looks like road / curb bounce crack) and one nickle sized spot on the driver sidewall. They include about a days worth of body repair in the cost of the FBP.
Removal of roof items has also started. The satellite dish, old cell phone antenna, CB antenna, the Javelina pie tin compass will also be removed. All the mounting and through holes will be patched and then the roof painted (with grip additive).
I'm thinking next week they will lay down a primer coat which will seal the porosity etc.
I'm thinking next week they will lay down a primer coat which will seal the porosity etc.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Woody & Sitka on February 15, 2025, 11:49:06 am
Post by: Woody & Sitka on February 15, 2025, 11:49:06 am
Rear ladder delete, Michelle? Lots of folks looking for ladder parts as they're NLA new. Just sayin.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 15, 2025, 12:11:24 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 15, 2025, 12:11:24 pm
Rear ladder delete, Michelle? Lots of folks looking for ladder parts as they're NLA new. Just sayin.
Nope - keeping it and the luggage rack (and the fake scoops and round docking lights) for those classic Foretravel lines.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: rbark on February 15, 2025, 12:17:19 pm
Post by: rbark on February 15, 2025, 12:17:19 pm
Berry, I think your about 20,000$ short!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bill & Kim on February 15, 2025, 05:17:52 pm
Post by: Bill & Kim on February 15, 2025, 05:17:52 pm
I have no idea :D ... its really several other updates/projects in addition to full body paint., plus we have not finalized a paint design. But as a guess 4-5 weeks? Others who have done this before can give a better answer.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 15, 2025, 08:26:43 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 15, 2025, 08:26:43 pm
Richard you are correct about cost when leaving Xtreme a month later.
I was trying to not discourage others by maybe quoting 14 yr old pricing. Wonder what just FBP cost today.
But nobody gets out without doing some body work / upgrades.
BTW, I thought I read a few years ago that Xtreme, for some reason, was no longer doing Full Body Paint jobs.
I was trying to not discourage others by maybe quoting 14 yr old pricing. Wonder what just FBP cost today.
But nobody gets out without doing some body work / upgrades.
BTW, I thought I read a few years ago that Xtreme, for some reason, was no longer doing Full Body Paint jobs.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on February 17, 2025, 07:44:04 pm
Post by: steve on February 17, 2025, 07:44:04 pm
Few more progress pictures ...
Entry door window was removed as well as the leading wind deflector, which will be replaced along with the door gasket. Drop down step was removed, its getting a rust/structure inspection to see if should be rebuilt (in SS)
Many old mounting holes patched from the various satellite dishes and antennas that had been installed over the years.
Another minor body repair, some wrinkles of wisdom were removed.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 17, 2025, 09:52:44 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 17, 2025, 09:52:44 pm
We see the work order in the front window. Wish we could read it. Are you staying in their home next door? When we stayed there for about 5 weeks, someone lived in the rear. Drilling a few holes in flip-down step so water can drain out with step up or down can add life to step.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 17, 2025, 10:01:25 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 17, 2025, 10:01:25 pm
We see the work order in the front window. Wish we could read it.
It says: "all that, and a bag of chips"
with guacamole. Perhaps some queso as well.
We're staying in the apartment until we get our graphic design (which should be very, very soon). Then we head home for the duration.
The step is being evaluated to see if it needs any attention (it isn't bad, but "while we're in there..."). Steve happened to capture some storage use we "missed" before turning the coach over to the crew. I hope they didn't look inside the purple bag... and no, that's not a "stash"
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: rbark on February 17, 2025, 10:27:20 pm
Post by: rbark on February 17, 2025, 10:27:20 pm
Could it be a "doggie bag"?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on February 24, 2025, 01:47:43 pm
Post by: steve on February 24, 2025, 01:47:43 pm
Roof hole patching/filling and paint with "grip / grit" was finished a few days ago, looks great now!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: kjsifer on February 24, 2025, 10:13:02 pm
Post by: kjsifer on February 24, 2025, 10:13:02 pm
What was the product they used on the roof? I'd like to do mine.
Thanks
Kevin
Thanks
Kevin
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 12:15:16 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 12:15:16 pm
Spray out test
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: kstine98 on February 25, 2025, 02:27:17 pm
Post by: kstine98 on February 25, 2025, 02:27:17 pm
That is beautiful! Can't wait to see the final product.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 03:35:19 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 03:35:19 pm
And the final design
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 05:18:01 pm
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 05:18:01 pm
That is beautiful. Is it a design of your own? I was lead to believe Xtreme was not painting entire coaches anymore. I may have to contact them..
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: turbojack on February 25, 2025, 06:17:29 pm
Post by: turbojack on February 25, 2025, 06:17:29 pm
Keith, While you have your coach there getting the new head lights and steps, might as well get the FBP.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 06:46:52 pm
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 06:46:52 pm
Thanks Jack, but I am not needing any help spending money. 😂😂 With my headlight and step conversion, and cabinetry and TV remodeling from Larry, and work at Keith's, I will probably be about 20k down as it is. I'm going to have them remove some of the unused items on my roof though, as Steve and Michelle did. I like that. Maybe a few paint touch ups. And oh , almost forgot about the fogged windows. You may see me on the news, caught robbing banks..😂😂😂
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 06:50:33 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 06:50:33 pm
That is beautiful. Is it a design of your own? I was lead to believe Xtreme was not painting entire coaches anymore.
It's a design that evolved out of giving their graphics "consultant" (the guy who did the designs back when they were doing a FBP per month) pictures of coaches we liked. There was the '03 design, a newer Phenix, and a Prevost in the mix as well as a finding a design we liked in Xtreme's album of prior paint jobs.
Richard would send us an image to get feedback, then take that feedback and make changes. It all started as white/gold/red and over about 15-20 iterations switched to white/silver/red somewhere around 9 or 10. Lots of tweaks for stripe width, outline width, where lines started and ended, etc. It took close to 2 weeks since he doesn't do this full-time.
Xtreme has not done FBP in a couple of years. As James will explain, as these classics are getting older the cost can exceed the value of the coach, depending on the age, condition, etc. He won't spend your money if he doesn't think it's wise (a rarity in this business.) The first response we got when we asked back in August was "no, we don't do those any longer", but they would quote painted "decal" lines on the existing gelcoat (the "level 1" paint job) if we brought the coach over to discuss the other work we wanted done. After seeing it "up close and personal" they actually offered to quote FBP.
It's not inexpensive by a long shot, but we know the quality and durability of their paint jobs. Having been here 3 weeks watching the prep, they are meticulous. Even in a spray-out sample to check colors, the paint is spectacular. Those reds have a depth to them that is incredible. With all the work Steve has done to zero-out most of the systems in this coach, it's worth it to us to have this done and we're thrilled that Xtreme agreed to do it.
ETA - Greg commented that because the major colors were so neutral, you could substitute any other color for the reds and it would work.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: dsd on February 25, 2025, 07:14:16 pm
Post by: dsd on February 25, 2025, 07:14:16 pm
Makes that coach look like it's breaking the sound barrier. Your going to get tickets parked at the park 👍👍
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 07:18:06 pm
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 07:18:06 pm
Thanks for the explanation. Again looks great. Yes James told me last time I saw him, they don't like just taking peoples money for FBP because as you say, in these older coaches it usually doesn't make financial sense. And it is a lot of work. I have never met more honest business men than in Nacogdoches... you just can't find that now days. That's why I drive at least once a year from Phoenix to have work done... looking forward to the finished product pictures..👍❤️
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 09:19:15 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 09:19:15 pm
Thanks for the explanation. Again looks great. Yes James told me last time I saw him, they don't like just taking peoples money for FBP because as you say, in these older coaches it usually doesn't make financial sense. And it is a lot of work.
One of our justifications for it comes from having considered newer coaches as our next coach after we sold the LTV. Every one we thought about would get compared to a Foretravel and would fall short. Then all the work Steve did on the wiki really drove things home as to what we really wanted (40' or shorter Foretravel, restored/updated as much as possible). Our outlay on this coach is still far, far less than anything else we considered that was newer and the "bones" will be better than anything else out there. Plus we (Steve) can work on virtually any system on this coach.
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looking forward to the finished product pictures..👍❤️
We'll definitely post those, and Xtreme will be sending us photos of the process as it continues and we'll post them. We head home in the morning since our work here is done and it's in good hands.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 09:45:18 pm
Post by: Bigoil76 on February 25, 2025, 09:45:18 pm
Michelle, I agree. The money spent making these older coaches "ours", and keeping them looking good , is money well spent IMO. I never plan on getting back the money invested in upgrades. It's for our own personal satisfaction. Like you said , with the money spent for the coach and upgrades, I still have a more solidly built coach than what else would be available in the price range...👍👍❤️
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 09:58:23 pm
Post by: Michelle on February 25, 2025, 09:58:23 pm
I would even argue that with the expense for upgrades, etc. we will still have a vastly better coach at less than 20-25% the cost of anything new that remotely comes close (and none really even do that). :)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: dsd on February 27, 2025, 10:52:44 am
Post by: dsd on February 27, 2025, 10:52:44 am
Our money doesnt hold the value it once did. There is no possible way to even consider replacing our coach with a newer comparable coach. I did a lot of research and I agree with you 100%. These are very robust good old coaches at heart. I genuinely think if you go into this knowing what you want and how much new would cost you'll be 60% or more ahead and have exactly what you want. I would like a 2005 towing capacity but that's the only deficiency.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on March 05, 2025, 06:07:19 pm
Post by: steve on March 05, 2025, 06:07:19 pm
Picture from last week, the primer (still wet in the pic) was applied.
It will be sanded and inspected for any remaining blems. Just prior to priming they noticed another small spider crack and fixed that. The fiberglass probably never looked this good when new.
The front and rear end caps were not primed at this time, they are due for some cosmetic upgrades by Dr. Rance "Fiberglass Surgeon"
It will be sanded and inspected for any remaining blems. Just prior to priming they noticed another small spider crack and fixed that. The fiberglass probably never looked this good when new.
The front and rear end caps were not primed at this time, they are due for some cosmetic upgrades by Dr. Rance "Fiberglass Surgeon"
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on March 06, 2025, 01:54:22 pm
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on March 06, 2025, 01:54:22 pm
Rance is a magician.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Jan & Richard on March 06, 2025, 03:34:35 pm
Post by: Jan & Richard on March 06, 2025, 03:34:35 pm
Rance is a magician.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: "Irish" on March 10, 2025, 10:32:08 pm
Post by: "Irish" on March 10, 2025, 10:32:08 pm
Miichelle
We had Rance add reversing lights which are a godsend and made the new headlights wired as daylight running lights.
You are doing an amazing job, good luck!
We had Rance add reversing lights which are a godsend and made the new headlights wired as daylight running lights.
You are doing an amazing job, good luck!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on April 01, 2025, 09:10:47 am
Post by: Michelle on April 01, 2025, 09:10:47 am
The new headlight/tail light fiberglass is done and the endcaps are primed
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Barry & Cindy on April 01, 2025, 06:51:07 pm
Post by: Barry & Cindy on April 01, 2025, 06:51:07 pm
Love the all gray stealth new color.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on April 16, 2025, 02:06:13 pm
Post by: Michelle on April 16, 2025, 02:06:13 pm
And first coat of paint (they first paint the entire coach the color of the outlines on the graphics.) So yes, a primarily white coach starts all black if that's the outline color.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michael Riensche on April 16, 2025, 04:47:03 pm
Post by: Michael Riensche on April 16, 2025, 04:47:03 pm
Wow! That's exciting.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on April 17, 2025, 04:08:02 pm
Post by: Michelle on April 17, 2025, 04:08:02 pm
And paint is done, awaiting the first coat of clear!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on April 17, 2025, 05:08:29 pm
Post by: Michelle on April 17, 2025, 05:08:29 pm
And first coat of clear (it's really hard to see the reds in the photos given the paint booth lighting.)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Hans&Marjet on April 17, 2025, 05:17:39 pm
Post by: Hans&Marjet on April 17, 2025, 05:17:39 pm
Awesome !!!!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: turbojack on April 17, 2025, 05:31:35 pm
Post by: turbojack on April 17, 2025, 05:31:35 pm
Coach is looking great. Soon you will have the fun of avoiding all of the trees and shrubs in RV parks to keep from getting your first scratch.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on April 17, 2025, 05:36:50 pm
Post by: Michelle on April 17, 2025, 05:36:50 pm
Soon you will have the fun of avoiding all of the trees and shrubs in RV parks to keep from getting your first scratch.
At least we know a good paint shop that could repair it ;)
And it's a Foretravel U320 - a foot or more less tall than any other brand new 2025 coach out there. (wink, wink, nod, nod)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: turbojack on April 17, 2025, 06:45:46 pm
Post by: turbojack on April 17, 2025, 06:45:46 pm
At least we know a good paint shop that could repair it ;)
And it's a Foretravel U320 - a foot or more less tall than any other brand new 2025 coach out there. (wink, wink, nod, nod)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Carol Savournin on April 18, 2025, 11:19:57 am
Post by: Carol Savournin on April 18, 2025, 11:19:57 am
But ... but .... will your TOAD MATCH?? I am clutching my pearls and waiting to see if the entire ensemble comes together!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on April 18, 2025, 11:33:49 am
Post by: Michelle on April 18, 2025, 11:33:49 am
But ... but .... will your TOAD MATCH?? I am clutching my pearls and waiting to see if the entire ensemble comes together!
Ha ha! We originally had a different thought on color scheme, then Richard (the designer) asked us what color our toad was. So glad he asked, because the silver looks fabulous.
So yes, our silver CR-V will go nicely with the paint scheme.
And funny, the red, black, and silver paint codes are the same as our '03 was done in. Only the white and the darker gray are different.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: BobW on April 19, 2025, 07:52:10 am
Post by: BobW on April 19, 2025, 07:52:10 am
They say no two are exactly alike....
Bob
2000 U270
@ Xtreme in 2012
Bob
2000 U270
@ Xtreme in 2012
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: John S on April 20, 2025, 11:13:07 am
Post by: John S on April 20, 2025, 11:13:07 am
It looks great. My new coach was just painted too. Funny we are both doing this at the same time.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 07, 2025, 07:39:40 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 07, 2025, 07:39:40 pm
Our first in-person look - still in re-assembly and hasn't had a bath yet.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michael Riensche on May 07, 2025, 08:12:53 pm
Post by: Michael Riensche on May 07, 2025, 08:12:53 pm
Beautiful :)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bill & Kim on May 07, 2025, 08:17:46 pm
Post by: Bill & Kim on May 07, 2025, 08:17:46 pm
Clean lines and design. Well done!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Jan & Richard on May 07, 2025, 11:28:51 pm
Post by: Jan & Richard on May 07, 2025, 11:28:51 pm
They sure do primo work!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: turbojack on May 07, 2025, 11:32:42 pm
Post by: turbojack on May 07, 2025, 11:32:42 pm
Did you add 360 cameras?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: AC7880 on May 07, 2025, 11:35:22 pm
Post by: AC7880 on May 07, 2025, 11:35:22 pm
Consider adding some top cap mirrors. Much better coverage - love ours.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: turbojack on May 08, 2025, 07:38:26 am
Post by: turbojack on May 08, 2025, 07:38:26 am
Consider adding some top cap mirrors. Much better coverage - love ours.
A U295 coach I had, had those. I found I could not see over the mirrors and was giving me blind spots, so I removed them.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 08, 2025, 09:58:54 am
Post by: Michelle on May 08, 2025, 09:58:54 am
Consider adding some top cap mirrors. Much better coverage - love ours.
Oh yes. They're on the project spreadsheet ;) (I just checked - Line 22 of 207)
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 08, 2025, 07:14:58 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 08, 2025, 07:14:58 pm
Did you add 360 cameras?
We did not, but did research the options. We are upgrading the backup camera, adding side cameras and a dash cam with a quad view recording monitor. We liked the intuitive view from the side cameras we had on the '03. The large Zip Dee manual patio awning arms drove the location of the side cameras.
We also added mid-ship directionals, which we'd had done on the '03 and found other vehicles responded favorably to our lane changes as a result.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: AC7880 on May 08, 2025, 09:50:41 pm
Post by: AC7880 on May 08, 2025, 09:50:41 pm
Are you talking about a mirror mounted above the existing side mirrors?
A U295 coach I had, had those. I found I could not see over the mirrors and was giving me blind spots, so I removed them.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 12, 2025, 04:54:53 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 12, 2025, 04:54:53 pm
Greg at Xtreme came up with a one-piece intake/rain shield for our new backup camera. It's 1/4" steel, painted to blend in with the coach, and no visible hardware.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Geodmann on May 12, 2025, 05:11:56 pm
Post by: Geodmann on May 12, 2025, 05:11:56 pm
That looks great. What camera system did you go with?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 12, 2025, 05:30:09 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 12, 2025, 05:30:09 pm
A custom setup from Home - Total Vision Products (https://totalvisionproducts.com/) (custom meaning the 7" quad view wired recording monitor we got is not on their website - it's similar to their 9" wired 4-camera offering, but 7" is a better size for us. We're still deciding on a mount for the monitor.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 13, 2025, 06:52:13 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 13, 2025, 06:52:13 pm
The final product ^.^d
Made a quick stop at Infinity and Mitch's team fit us in to replace the bedroom carpet (we'd brought that with us in February).
Come fall, WildE will "go to Infinity and beyond" for some interior upgrades.
Made a quick stop at Infinity and Mitch's team fit us in to replace the bedroom carpet (we'd brought that with us in February).
Come fall, WildE will "go to Infinity and beyond" for some interior upgrades.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michael Riensche on May 13, 2025, 07:07:46 pm
Post by: Michael Riensche on May 13, 2025, 07:07:46 pm
So cool!!! What a beautiful coach
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Don N on May 13, 2025, 07:30:34 pm
Post by: Don N on May 13, 2025, 07:30:34 pm
Stunning. Great outcome.
Congratulations!
Don
Congratulations!
Don
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: rbark on May 13, 2025, 11:37:54 pm
Post by: rbark on May 13, 2025, 11:37:54 pm
Sweeet!!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: AC7880 on May 13, 2025, 11:48:53 pm
Post by: AC7880 on May 13, 2025, 11:48:53 pm
The final product ^.^d
Made a quick stop at Infinity and Mitch's team fit us in to replace the bedroom carpet (we'd brought that with us in February).
Come fall, WildE will "go to Infinity and beyond" for some interior upgrades.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Hach on May 14, 2025, 12:15:51 am
Post by: Hach on May 14, 2025, 12:15:51 am
Congrats! Absolutely beautiful. There is something so pleasing about a loved Foretravel.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Gold Nugget finder on May 14, 2025, 12:51:32 pm
Post by: Gold Nugget finder on May 14, 2025, 12:51:32 pm
It looks awesome.
I have a few questions about paint on our older units. First question is that mine is a 1999 that had a full body paint in round 2001 by foretravel I believe. Last year she started micro cracking and seems to be happening often. Can anything be done to help seal the cracking areas?
The second question, is your new paint job going to start micro cracking in the near future?
I'm asking in case I may want to do the same thing in the future.
Thanks
I have a few questions about paint on our older units. First question is that mine is a 1999 that had a full body paint in round 2001 by foretravel I believe. Last year she started micro cracking and seems to be happening often. Can anything be done to help seal the cracking areas?
The second question, is your new paint job going to start micro cracking in the near future?
I'm asking in case I may want to do the same thing in the future.
Thanks
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: John S on May 14, 2025, 01:41:07 pm
Post by: John S on May 14, 2025, 01:41:07 pm
Classic coach given an amazing transformation
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Peter on May 14, 2025, 09:27:44 pm
Post by: Peter on May 14, 2025, 09:27:44 pm
Amazing looking! No problems getting into the year restricted resorts with that!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 14, 2025, 09:40:43 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 14, 2025, 09:40:43 pm
Amazing looking! No problems getting into the year restricted resorts with that!
"What year is your coach?"
"It just rolled out of the paint booth in 2025."
;)
I had no idea, but Steve mentioned he asked Greg about the paint they use (Glasurit), and it's over $1000/gallon.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 14, 2025, 09:47:12 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 14, 2025, 09:47:12 pm
It looks awesome.
I have a few questions about paint on our older units. First question is that mine is a 1999 that had a full body paint in round 2001 by foretravel I believe. Last year she started micro cracking and seems to be happening often. Can anything be done to help seal the cracking areas?
The second question, is your new paint job going to start micro cracking in the near future?
Thanks!
My recollection (which may not be all that great), is that the microcracking is actually the expansion/outgassing of the underlying fiberglass and not the paint itself. Also, you don't want to seal the areas - they need to breathe. In fact, we were advised not to wax the coach at all (my shoulder is happy).
Dark areas, especially large dark areas, are always going to heat up more in the sun than light areas - in some cases by 60 degrees F or more. That's by far the main reason we went light with the paint job and that the darker portions of the design are narrow. That and we really prefer a light exterior. We don't anticipate issues - there are 2002/2003 coaches here at FOT that are light color paint jobs that still look as good as the day they rolled off the production line.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: red tractor on May 15, 2025, 02:27:30 pm
Post by: red tractor on May 15, 2025, 02:27:30 pm
That is a great looking coach.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: T and M Long on May 16, 2025, 10:07:20 am
Post by: T and M Long on May 16, 2025, 10:07:20 am
I don't think I could quit smiling. Your coach looks looks like a million bucks!
Tom
Tom
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: hdff on May 16, 2025, 01:26:19 pm
Post by: hdff on May 16, 2025, 01:26:19 pm
Very nice! They do great work there.. Hopefully we will get to see it in person someday!!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 16, 2025, 09:20:38 pm
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 16, 2025, 09:20:38 pm
You sure jumped back into Foretravel ing with both feet. I have FBP envy.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 16, 2025, 09:25:21 pm
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 16, 2025, 09:25:21 pm
Did you add 360 cameras?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 16, 2025, 09:49:30 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 16, 2025, 09:49:30 pm
We have front rear and side cameras. So I have to ask, what's the difference ? Is it more cameras?
360 cameras are a set of cameras mounted high on the sides/rear/front of the coach and use software image stitching to create a virtual top-down "view" of the coach and what's around it. You need access inside the sidewalls to run the wiring. I found the individual side images "odd", and that it took slightly longer for my brain to process the image, vs. the side cameras which (for me) are a familiar view somewhat like a side mirror.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: steve on May 17, 2025, 09:14:52 am
Post by: steve on May 17, 2025, 09:14:52 am
We have front rear and side cameras. So I have to ask, what's the difference ? Is it more cameras?
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Dub on May 17, 2025, 02:52:50 pm
Post by: Dub on May 17, 2025, 02:52:50 pm
That will be a show where ever you go. Proud for you two.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 17, 2025, 08:58:04 pm
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 17, 2025, 08:58:04 pm
360 cameras are a set of cameras mounted high on the sides/rear/front of the coach and use software image stitching to create a virtual top-down "view" of the coach and what's around it. You need access inside the sidewalls to run the wiring. I found the individual side images "odd", and that it took slightly longer for my brain to process the image, vs. the side cameras which (for me) are a familiar view somewhat like a side mirror.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Frontier Camping on May 18, 2025, 07:43:08 am
Post by: Frontier Camping on May 18, 2025, 07:43:08 am
Absolutely beautiful... Congratulations!
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Hatchet on May 19, 2025, 10:10:32 am
Post by: Hatchet on May 19, 2025, 10:10:32 am
I swear that's the nicest looking coach I've seen in the last 2 days here at Camp MOT.
Title: Re: WildE's Xtreme Makeover
Post by: Michelle on May 19, 2025, 05:21:56 pm
Post by: Michelle on May 19, 2025, 05:21:56 pm
Thanks! It was great to meet you this morning!