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Powered Passenger Seat

Powered "Fore and Aft" travel on passenger seat locked up.    Dual threaded rods share a single motor to drive the fore and aft travel of the seat.  One of the rods is locked up; the other turns slightly which torques the seat to one side, then stops.  I've tried tapping various potential points of lock up to no avail.  All other controls operate fine.  The seat is in the forward position blocking part of the entry steps.    This problem surfaced after my grandson was in the seat, so there's no telling what combination of playing with the switches may have caused the lockup.
James Triana was contacted but wasn't able to offer much assistance on this one except to suggest removal of the seat for inspection.
Fiddler
1959 Parris Island grad
40' 2001 U320 Build 5875
1999 Suburban K1500 toad
1986 Corvette Pacecar
ssoftail@comcast.net

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Reply #1 –
Hi Fiddler,
How about calling the manufacturer of the seat. Though they may not make the mechanism, they might know something helpful.

Jim
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Powered "Fore and Aft" travel on passenger seat locked up.  Dual threaded rods share a single motor to drive the fore and aft travel of the seat.  One of the rods is locked up; the other turns slightly which torques the seat to one side, then stops.  I've tried tapping various potential points of lock up to no avail.  All other controls operate fine. The seat is in the forward position blocking part of the entry steps.  This problem surfaced after my grandson was in the seat, so there's no telling what combination of playing with the switches may have caused the lockup. > Fiddler

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Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

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Reply #2 –
Removing the seat from the base is a very good idea to learn more. I assume grandson just powered to max end and jammed the screw. How about using a pliers, vise grip etc to 'assist' the motor in turning the screw in the other directin?
Kids have been known to break lots of stuff and to push in parking brake bright yellow knob, sometimes with disastrous results. Always use a parking brake knob blocker, not just when kids are about.

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Quote from: Barry & Cindy –
How about using a pliers, vise grip etc to 'assist' the motor in turning the screw in the other directin?

Tim,  I think Barry's suggestion is a good one.  That is what I would do.  There has to be some place on the screw drive where you can get a grip.  Maybe a small shot of Corrosion X at the end of the screw would help, too.
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

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I bought the seats from George Stoltz's coach, both seats need a little TLC, the screw drive's were dry and noisy, I lubricated them with a thin coat of never seize, that cured the noise problem, the passenger seat made a loud noise when the foot rest came down, after looking real close there was a bolt that the head on the bolt would strike one of the arms on the foot rest, after some grinding on the head for clearance all is well, a good leather cleaning  and a coat of saddle soap and we are good for years to come.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bill&Doris 97 U270 36'
University of Parris Island Class of 66
Semper Fi  Build# 5174 MC#17094

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Bill,

What did you do to get rid fo the bed bugs?  They were heavily infested  ;D ;D ;D.
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

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Quote from: George Stoltz –
Bill,

What did you do to get rid fo the bed bugs?  They were heavily infested  ;D ;D ;D.

I'm certain the bed bugs stayed with the Moose.  No point in leaving a good home.

Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

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Reply #7 –
Tom, Tom, Tom --

You left coast folks have it all wrong.  We headed north when we dumped the old seats.  Bed bugs like warm weather.
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

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Rance told me he put them in your new seats so they would be at home. ^.^d ^.^d ^.^d ^.^d ^.^d
The selected media item is not currently available.Bill&Doris 97 U270 36'
University of Parris Island Class of 66
Semper Fi  Build# 5174 MC#17094

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: Fiddler –
Powered "Fore and Aft" travel on passenger seat locked up.    Dual threaded rods share a single motor to drive the fore and aft travel of the seat.  One of the rods is locked up; the other turns slightly which torques the seat to one side, then stops.  I've tried tapping various potential points of lock up to no avail.  All other controls operate fine.  The seat is in the forward position blocking part of the entry steps.    This problem surfaced after my grandson was in the seat, so there's no telling what combination of playing with the switches may have caused the lockup.
James Triana was contacted but wasn't able to offer much assistance on this one except to suggest removal of the seat for inspection.
Fiddler
1959 Parris Island grad
40' 2001 U320 Build 5875
1999 Suburban K1500 toad
1986 Corvette Pacecar
ssoftail@comcast.net

Re: Powered Passenger Seat

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Source of problem discovered that a nylon worm gear shaft broken off in the transmission housing at the end of one of the threaded drive shafts that move the set fore and aft.  No luck finding this part after checking with Foretravel and with Villa.  Villa can only sell me an entire base assembly from leftover stock for ~$300 plus shipping.  Seems a waste to buy the entire assy when everything else on the seat works find.  This seat assembly is no longer provided to Villa by Track Corp.  At a loss of where to check to get this part.  Looking forward to any suggestions.
Fiddler
1959 Parris Island grad
40' 2001 U320 Build 5875
1999 Suburban K1500 toad
1986 Corvette Pacecar
ssoftail@comcast.net

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Reply #11 –
Think I would be goggling worm gear suppliers and checking with local machine shops.  Villa has to buy them from someone, cause I doubt that they make them in their own facility.  McMaster-Carr might be a good place to start.
1994 U225
build #4514

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Reply #12 –
Fiddler,  You might check with the man who runs the remodeling dept. at the factory.  He is a very nice fellow, and I think his name is Dave.  When I was there last year, he had quite a few seats in his shop that he removed from coaches for remodeling.  Also, some higher-end conversion vans may have similar mechanisms.  Check your local bone-yard; otherwise, bite the bullet, and tell your grandchildren "no buttons".  Problems like this are caused by leaning on the button when the seat has reached the end of its travel.  Good luck

Gregory S
2003 Designer
 

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Dave Flanagan, I thinks
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