Re: Pacbrake PRXB w/ Allison MT643 Reply #25 – October 17, 2011, 01:33:21 pm Quote from: Dave M – October 15, 2011, 12:12:10 pmPatC, As a retired professional truck driver, I would guess you have much experience with the Jake Brake system, My question is concerning the effectiveness of the Exhaust type brake compared with the Jake brake setup. For me, the DDC engines with the Jake Brake are not real effective unless you are up against the governor in RPM, Have no experience with the Cummins or Cats with the Jake Brake. SO just wonder what your thoughts are along this line.Thanks.Never ran a Detroit that had a Jake so I don't know. But did run a lot of Detriots without them, both DD 318s and DD 238s. My experience with Jakes was with Cummins. They were all 3 stage and found them to be very effective. At very low rpm they would stall out the engine. Quote Selected