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removing sleeper sofa 93 GV

looks like it will require removing couch and cutting hole in floor to access wires feeding generator(neautral overheated and melted insullation) there isn't anything easy about it that i can see.Has anyone else had to do this,maybe steer me in right direction....
Dale Gass
1993 U240 36                                                             

cat 3116 allison 3060

Re: removing sleeper sofa 93 GV

Reply #1 –
Ernie Eckberg and I just removed and reinstalled the sofa in my 1994 GV when we installed new flooring last week.  It wasn't fun at all for there is very little room in which to work. 

We sorta reclined the sofa about halfway in order to get just enough room to stick a head under the sofa and look inside to find the screws that hold the front of the sofa to the floor.  There were about 8 or 10 screws, and we were able to get to them with a battery-powered screwdiver.  That was the easy part.  Then it was mostly a matter of searching for the remaining screws.  IIRC we found 3 or 4 in the middle, and a couple in the rear holding the back of the sofa to the side wall.  They were a bear to access.

It will be tempting to take a wrench and disassemble the sofa.  Resist the urge!  We found out the hard way that it doesn't make things any easier and the bolts are next to impossible to realign.

If you have a skinny next door kid who is willing to get to the screws the job will be much easier.

Keep plugging.  You'll get it.

Glen
Glen Kenney
Colmesneil, Tx
Former owner of
1997 40' U320
Build # 5099

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Reply #2 –
thanks glen...been studying all those screws all over the place...also was thinking about doing the wrench thing ...i have an issue with very thin skin on my arms,so tight quarters usually means i bleed...lots...thats makes this chore intimidating...anyway,thanks for encouraging words and i now know not to disassemble couch....
Dale Gass
1993 U240 36                                                             

cat 3116 allison 3060

Re: removing sleeper sofa 93 GV

Reply #3 –
Plan B,  I helped Kent Speers re-install the seat and seat back part, last year when I bought his coach.  Those two parts are held by maybe just 2 bolts thru the pivot brackets, at each end of the sofa.  It was tight as Glen mentioned, but we had it back into position and secure in a couple of minutes.  It had been taken out to service the forward furnace.  Big trick was to have someone hold the seat up, so the other could reach in to start the bolts, a socket wrench or closed end gear wrench worked for us.
Dave Cobb
Buckhorn Lake Resort The Club, #6202, Kerrville TX
check the map.  I do rent it out when I am traveling!
2001, U320, 36' #5887, in Kerrville, FT Club #17006, (7/23 to present)
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L, Summit, white
EX: 98 U295, 36' #5219, (mid door), (4/13-10/23)
EX: 93 U225, 36' (4/11 to 4/13)

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Reply #4 –
Just my opinion ... but you are in Texas.  Go to the Factory and get some advice from the guys who actually built the rig.  David Flanagan was on the assembly line when your coach came through, as were several many others.  It is well worth the cost of the trip ... really!
Carol & Jeff Savournin
Usta have a '93 U225 36', Usta have a '95 U320 40', Usta have a '02 U320 40'
Usta have a 2006 Born Free, Usta have a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser
Usta have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4dr
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life."  Steve Jobs

Re: removing sleeper sofa 93 GV

Reply #5 –
If you have a Yankee screwdriver- that would help with the screws that attach the sofa to the wall. A bright flaslite helps, also/ I wish the sofa was designed so that it opens wider.

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Reply #6 –
As Dave said, take off the back and top cushion to access all of those screws. Both the top and seat cushions are connected and come off as one piece.

 You will need a 9/16 and 1/2 ratchet wrench. One of the bolts is best removed with a ratcheting box end wrench due to the space allowed. The other can be removed with a socket. Once the cushions are off you will have no problem removing the base with a power screwdriver and medium square head or clutch head driver. The entire job should take less than 20 minutes.

It is better if you have a helper to position the cushions, but that's more important for replacing the cushions than it is to remove them.

The selected media item is not currently available.Kent Speers
Locust Grove, OK
1993 U300 SSE 40' (Restored at FOT 2009) Build 4323
720 watts Solar
6V92TA DDEC Silver Engine
2014 Subaru Outback

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Reply #7 –
thanx to all....gotta good game plan now...
Dale Gass
1993 U240 36                                                             

cat 3116 allison 3060

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Reply #8 –
Whoa, why are you cutting a hole in the floor again???  Can't that be accessed from the generator compartment?
1994 U225
build #4514

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Reply #9 –
this will be first hole to cut.wires that come into generator comp. are melted together right where they pass from coach..i need to get to back side of box to access wires..looks like they run from ATS box under bed into a channel that appears to run lenth of coach into compartment(generator)..from what i can tell,the channel is under wood floor with no access that i can find..i plan on very carefully measuring where box should be and cutting fioor to get to back side of box...looks like it will be under sofa...wish there was an easier way....
Dale Gass
1993 U240 36                                                             

cat 3116 allison 3060

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Reply #10 –
Dale, Do you not have a metal covered chase way that runs the length of the coach in the center that is attached to the ceiling of the bays ?  If so you should find almost all the coach wiring , air, refrigerant etc in this chase .  By removing the metal cover you should be able to access all of them.
Gary B

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Reply #11 –
Gary,you are correct.thank you for bringing that to my attention...new game plan...if i may ask your opinion,would it be feasible to remove tray in bay to the right of generator,find wires feeding onan,cut them and reroute them to the front part of bay,drill hole in left side of bay and run them directly to connections at onan...seems like path of least resistance to me.....
Dale Gass
1993 U240 36                                                             

cat 3116 allison 3060
 

Re: removing sleeper sofa 93 GV

Reply #12 –
Dale, You are on the right track.  Remove the metal cover and then You can probably identify the wires to the Genny with a wiring diagram, then MAYBE be able to pull them out far enough to find undamaged portion.  Set a new junction box and then pull wires back to genny.  May not be easy but that beats drilling holes.  Keep us up to date, there is probably some one here who has had to do this.
I am not familiar with your year coach but if genny is on left side you will probably have to slide it out to get behind it to trace wires, hopefully it is on a slide.
Also call FT and speak with Harvey or James, they can tell you how assembly installed wiring and help you from there.
Gary B