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Finally found the stinker

           We have occasionally been smelling sewer gas around the toilet. Mostly when the roof top fan was on or there was negative air.

              Got brave this morning and pulled the toilet to try to get to the "bottom" of it. Found one of the rear flange bolts had pulled through and broke the plastic base of the toilot.
            Good news, found the source of the smell, bad news, we need a new lower base for our Sealand 511+ toilot.

        I considered epoxying it back in but not sure how well that would hold up. May have to give it a try depending on the cost of the base.

            Dean
Dean & Deirdre

2012 Arctic Fox 22GQ
Was 2003 U270

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Quote from: Dean & Dee –
          we need a new lower base for our Sealand 511+ toilot.

        I considered epoxying it back in but not sure how well that would hold up. May have to give it a try depending on the cost of the base.

Dean,

These folks have pretty good prices for Sealand parts.  I have purchased from them before.

http://www.environmentalmarine.com/index.php

Michelle
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2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Dean, Try

AER Supply 
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               Thanks Michelle and Jimmy. I just did an epoxy repair and will see how that turns out.  It appears that the base may cost nearly as much as a whole new toilet. About $250.00 for the part while $279.00 buys the whole thing from PPL.

      Will try the $5.00 repair first.

          Dean
Dean & Deirdre

2012 Arctic Fox 22GQ
Was 2003 U270

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If you get it back in position, I bet it holds - use 60 minute epoxy - nothing to lose......let us know how it turns out.
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Quote from: Dean & Dee –
                Thanks Michelle and Jimmy. I just did an epoxy repair and will see how that turns out.  It appears that the base may cost nearly as much as a whole new toilet. About $250.00 for the part while $279.00 buys the whole thing from PPL.

      Will try the $5.00 repair first.

          Dean
If you have to do it again you might want to lay a piece of fiberglass cloth imbedded in the epoxy and spanning the crack to reinforce it.
Rick

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If you have to do it again you might want to lay a piece of fiberglass cloth imbedded in the epoxy and spanning the crack to reinforce it.
                      Good thought on the fiberglass Rick. What i did was flip the toilet over and prepped the area then epoxyed the broken peice back in with a quick-set epoxy. Then I filled the "flutes" around it with a high strength aircraft grade epoxy (that I got from an airline mechanic friend). When that had set I flipped it back over, made a duct tape form and poured about a 1/4" bed of epoxy on the top-side.

                    Tomorrow I will drill the bolt hole back out and re-mount it. I think it will be stronger than the original was.

                  Dean
Dean & Deirdre

2012 Arctic Fox 22GQ
Was 2003 U270

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Dean are your tires group H as with all that epoxy etc you better make sure the tires can hold the weight!! Sounds like a perfect repair to me, sorta like the one I did on the CAC  after everyone told me not to do it! That fix saved me over $3000 and 6 weeks wait and is as good as new.
John
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Dean are your tires group H as with all that epoxy etc you better make sure the tires can hold the weight!! Sounds like a perfect repair to me, sorta like the one I did on the CAC  after everyone told me not to do it! That fix saved me over $3000 and 6 weeks wait and is as good as new.
John
                      Yes John, the tires are H rated so to be able to hold up for epoxy, duct tape, Gorilla Glue, tie-wraps, and bailing twine. :))

              It's alway a good feeling to make a repair that meets or exceeds the original. Just takes a little thought and planning. Gotta love saving a buck too. ^.^d

            Dean
Dean & Deirdre

2012 Arctic Fox 22GQ
Was 2003 U270

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                       John, by the way I saw in a past post you had mentioned putting some silicone sealant around the gasket when re-assembling the toilet. Was that the base flange gasket or the one between the bowl and the base.

          I was thinking about useing a sealant with/at the flange gasket because I don't really trust the "foam" type seal kit. Seems like it could have been rubber or something better.

        Dean
Dean & Deirdre

2012 Arctic Fox 22GQ
Was 2003 U270
 

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yes the foam one I cover in silicone, then when the toilet base is clamped down I smear some over the top of foam ring and make sure the silicone gets between the base and ring. I have done this on many toilets in rv's as I do not trust the design. I have never had a bad result either.
John H
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.