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Reply #25
Hi Scott,
  I hope you keep posting. I enjoy everyones thoughts. I do not always agree, who does? I'm sure we learn something from what you, and others, post. I hope to hear from you soon.
Raymond
Raymond & Babette Jordan
1997 U 320
1998 Ford Explorer XLT

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Reply #26
Wow, I'm so sorry I even posted this.

I'm not sorry you posted it. It's a great idea for getting out of a jam. When I had my "no-start" issue I am pretty sure it was not the solenoid under the dash that was the problem (because I had jumpered it to no effect) but having your info in the back of my mind might solve a future problem.

I am kicking around the idea of a better solenoid; the Blue Sea version's price sorta makes me gasp but if the original goes south then you can't just throw $150 under the coach and have that fix it.

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

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Reply #27
JC,

Behind the panel in front of the passenger seat at the bottom.

Regards,
Brett

'99 42' Foretravel Xtreme
'14 Brown Motorsports Stacker
'05 Chevy SSR
'02 BMW R1150R

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Reply #28
I'm not sorry you posted it. It's a great idea for getting out of a jam. When I had my "no-start" issue I am pretty sure it was not the solenoid under the dash that was the problem (because I had jumpered it to no effect) but having your info in the back of my mind might solve a future problem.

I am kicking around the idea of a better solenoid; the Blue Sea version's price sorta makes me gasp but if the original goes south then you can't just throw $150 under the coach and have that fix it.

Craig
And mine was definately on the way out.  Gauges doing all sorts of weird stuff, headlights messing up,  starting intermittent, even stalled a couple times.  But I did some real serious searching because of the price, to find one at a good price.  If I remember correctly, I only paid $64, plus what ever the shipping was.  Was a small marina somewhere down in Tennessee, and he only had a couple left and had no one demanding them.  It doesn't happen often, but once in a while I fall into the mud and come out looking like gold.  If it lasts like they claim, I will be extremely happy!!  Like usual, now I'm thinking I should have grabbed all of them.
1994 U225
build #4514

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Reply #29

What is the difference between the two Blue Sea Systems 9012 Solenoid Switch L-Series 12-24V on this page:

Amazon.com: Blue Sea Solenoid

best, paul

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Reply #31
What is the difference between the two Blue Sea Systems 9012 Solenoid Switch L-Series 12-24V on this page:

Amazon.com: Blue Sea Solenoid

best, paul

Price.  Looked like the same part number on the three I looked at.
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Reply #32
Right. I bought the lower cost one.

No s&h. And no state tax.

best, paul
1999 U320 40' 1200 watts on roof. 12cf AC/DC Cold plate fridge/freezer. VMS 240 CL Honda Element

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Reply #33
You guys were correct. The Advance Auto Parts solenoid now won't close. I searched and found an O'Reilly Auto Parts store in my area and ordered the Cole Hersee solenoid. None of the stores have one in stock but they'll get one for me tomorrow. I'll go fight with Advance Auto Parts to get a refund for the BWD solenoid. So to be clear to anyone reading this, jumper your old solenoid temporarily and order the correct new solenoid. You probably won't be able to find a suitable solenoid in stock anywhere, even at O'Reilly. If you're on the road when your solenoid dies you'll have to order the solenoid and have it shipped to an O'Reilly store a couple of days down the road in the direction you're going. Here's the part I ordered, but I haven't actually got the solenoid yet so obviously I haven't tested it:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CH00/24213/N0791.oap?ck=Search_solenoid_N0791_-1_2259&keyword=solenoid&pt=N0791&ppt=C0218
Scott Cook
1991 U300 36' 6V92TA
Old Town Penobscot 16
1984 Honda VF1100C (V65 Magna)

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Reply #34
Scott,

That one will work just fine.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #35
When I was in NAC, I bought two solenoids from FOT. They were inexpensive at about $30ea, but to my surprise, they were not Cole Hersee but some generic that didn't have any manufacturer's name stamped on them... Haven't installed them yet, but I expect they will work. Having the occasional glitch with the boost switch and recently the speedo didn't work on one of our travel legs (didn't notice for the longest time because it is easier to glance at my VMSPC), but on the next, it did... at least I have something to swap in to try next time.
Don
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1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
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Reply #36
I searched and found an O'Reilly Auto Parts store in my area and ordered the Cole Hersee solenoid. 
<snip>Here's the part I ordered, but I haven't actually got the solenoid yet so obviously I haven't tested it:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CH00/24213/N0791.oap?ck=Search_solenoid_N0791_-1_2259&keyword=solenoid&pt=N0791&ppt=C0218
Would this be the correct solenoid for my 97 U320?  Is 200 Amp enough?

Scott,
I'm glad you posted this thread...I'm still pretty new at this and I didn't know this solenoid could cause the problems mentioned in this thread.  I'm not convinced it will solve in intermittent wacky tack problem but it can't hurt to give it a try.  And this sounds like a part I would like to have a spare of anyway.  So thanks!  ^.^d
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Douglas and Amanda
1997 40' U320 "Brawley"
2007 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer
Motorcade #17266 Escapee #113692

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Reply #37
Douglas,

I would be surprised if your draw by items that only run with the ignition on exceed 200 amps.

But, were the 200 amp solenoid to show signs of pitting or failure, or you just want to insure this is not a failure potential, go with the Blue Sea one many of us have used-- it is rated FAR higher and has a 1 million cycle life expectancy.

Brett
Brett Wolfe
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Reply #38
When I went to the parts counter at FT was told they no longer carry the 200A solenoid.  One advantage to the Blue Seas unit is probably reduced holding current.  The original solenoid seems to run pretty hot. 
"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

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Reply #39
Doug  ----  When my tach started doing wacky things, I started looking for a tach sensor.  Before I got ready to order one , other instruments started going wacky.  At one point I was flying blind down the highway because they all went wacky.  I connected a couple of voltmeters at different spots and was able to pinpoint the ignition solenoid.  I wouldn't tell you to replace it now, but I sure would recommend that you obtain a new solenoid and be ready .  Have a great day  ----  Fritz
Fritz & Kathy Johnson
1991 36'

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Reply #40
If your dashboard voltmeter reads suspiciously low even when your ignition solenoid is jumpered out, clean the contacts on the back of your voltmeter and suddenly you've got a nice high voltage reading again... which I discovered while messing with this stuff the other day.
Scott Cook
1991 U300 36' 6V92TA
Old Town Penobscot 16
1984 Honda VF1100C (V65 Magna)

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Reply #41
All this talk about failing ignition solenoids got me feeling REAL nervous.  Been watching for a good price on Blue Sea 9012 - think I found it.  Just pulled the trigger:

Blue Sea Systems 12 24 Volt L Series Solenoid Switch 9012 | eBay

Once it arrives and is installed, I figure it's "One less thing to worry about..."
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
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Reply #42
I have a clamp on ac/dc ammeter and highly recommend carrying one in the toolbox for times like these. Better to know the actual current draw than guess.

By the way, most less expensive clamp on ammeters are ac only in measuring clamp on amps, but still called ac/dc because they measure ac and dc volts and amps with the wired probes.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
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