iPad Display of VMS

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iPad Display of VMS

January 21, 2015, 12:03:03 pm

Like others I use a notebook (Acer Aspire) computer sitting on the dash for the VMSpc. I would like to mount an iPad on the dash and display the VMS screen on it. I only require display and don't need a remote desktop solution. I use an iPhone to create a local area network in the rig. I've read about a number of solutions and am now looking for input from members that might have done this already. Thanks.
jor

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Reply #1 – January 21, 2015, 12:56:24 pm

no availability from silverleaf on the older electronics and a ipad. no one there knows how to code for apple is what I was told.

new coaches yes.

I bought a hp stream 11 with full windows 8.1 in it for $200. put vpms in it. works great. added a logitiech thumbwheel mouse for $30.

even better.

amazing computer if you need windows for the money.

direct from Microsoft eliminated the bloatware installed normally.

typing on it now. and I swore I would never buy a windows anything again. smart of Microsoft to remind you how much you can work windows from previous training....

drag as I have a ram mount for the ipad to sit on the dash. slick.

oh well.

no trans input until 99's either way as far as retarder operation and gear selection indications.

really not a lot the gauges do not show already. but its fun. the boost pressure is interesting.

btw the cummins m11 shop manual shows the internal fan switch for an electric cooling fan ands shutter control on a truck is 205 on and 195 off.

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Reply #2 – January 21, 2015, 02:45:05 pm

If you have a laptop or a mini PC running VMSpc then you can sent the display using wifi, to any tablet, android or apple, using splashtop, a remote display app that runs on the PC and on the tablet.

I use a micro PC that is mounted in the cabinet over the driver and a 7" android tablet. Se the photo of my tablet taken with my iphone driving south from Dallas. It was a good fuel day.

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Reply #3 – January 21, 2015, 03:28:15 pm

VNC Viewer on iPad, free download from Apple App Store, works very well for connecting wirelessly to a PC.

One would assume the PC must be running VMS software.

Am using VNC View right now, connected to my Mac Mini.

Travel Safe

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Reply #4 – January 21, 2015, 06:16:41 pm

Quote from: Home2fromHastings – January 21, 2015, 02:45:05 pm

If you have a laptop or a mini PC running VMSpc then you can sent the display using wifi, to any tablet, android or apple, using splashtop, a remote display app that runs on the PC and on the tablet.

I use a micro PC that is mounted in the cabinet over the driver and a 7" android tablet. Se the photo of my tablet taken with my iphone driving south from Dallas. It was a good fuel day.

What are you using to hold the tablet above the radio?

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Reply #5 – January 21, 2015, 06:43:44 pm

See previous post...
Engine Diagnostics

I used this one for the 7" Samsung Galaxy Tab

Amazon.com: Multi-Surface Dash / Window / Desk Suction Mount for Samsung...

I cleaned off the dash with an alcohol wipe and stuck it on. It has been on there now for three years without falling off. I got a 3M disc that sticks on the dash that these can attach to but never needed it.

I use it with the holder upside down. Very stable. I also added a dual USB power port just above the heat vent on the right side of the dash. The hole is already there in the aluminium backing plate behind the plastic.

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Reply #6 – January 22, 2015, 12:14:16 pm

Thanks for the replies. I'll check out Splashtop and VNC Viewer and post on results. Never thought of using a suction device on the dash. Might give that a try too.
jor

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Reply #7 – January 22, 2015, 02:30:56 pm

How does the splash top transmit from my PC to my iPad?

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Reply #8 – January 22, 2015, 06:08:34 pm

Quote from: Caflashbob – January 22, 2015, 02:30:56 pm

How does the splash top transmit from my PC to my iPad?

Just download and install the Splashtop streamer on the PC and the client on the tablet. Works great.

I paid extra to be able to remote my home Mac from my traveling Mac, pc, android tablet, and iPads. But the free version works fine when both units are on the same wifi network.

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Reply #9 – January 22, 2015, 07:07:32 pm

PC to tablet connection is by WiFi. If you have a MiFi device from Verizon or another vendor to get internet on the road just connect them both to it and Bob's your Uncle, their connected.

You can use any wifi modem to create an internal wifi network that the pc and tablet connect to if you don't have or want to have a cellular mifi device.

We have a Cradlepoint MBR95 wifi modem for the internal coach network. (coach PC, HP printer/scanner/copier/fax, 2 iPads, 2 iPhones, Samsung tablet, DirecTV Genie, Amazon Fire TV Stick and a smart Blu Ray player. We use our Verizon MiFi device to connect to the internet and also to the Cradlepoint (wirelessly) so that devices connected to the Cradlepoint have internet access. This make a more stable wifi connection between the PC and the tablet. We have found that doing the PC to Tablet wifi connection through the Verizon MiFi device results in occasional dropped links probably when switching to one cell tower to the next one. It is disconcerting to have the tablet go blank driving down the road and not very safe to be trying to reestablish the link. No drop out doing it this way

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Reply #10 – January 22, 2015, 07:54:02 pm

I'm a VMSpc newbie. Is there a list of coaches/engines/trannys by model year that this is available for? Would this be available as far back as 1991 for my coach?

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Reply #11 – January 22, 2015, 08:26:33 pm

Peter, I don't see specifics for the 91 6V92TA. But that doesn't mean it won't work.

Call Silverleaf at (888) 741-0259 and ask.

Some older configurations have limited functionality.

Roger

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Reply #12 – January 22, 2015, 08:51:27 pm

I can't access it due to slow internet here but a Prevost membe sells a bluetooth dongle for iPads. Free app on the Apple store but the bluetooth dongle ihardware is expensive. Will work on your DDEC II. The free app has an included demo mode. This is Detroit 2 cycle electronic engines only.

Pierce

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Reply #13 – January 25, 2015, 01:47:10 pm

UPDATE

I'm screwing around with the VNC product. I tried it with the Acer (Windows 8.1) and an iPad 2. Worked great. Just have to resize the VMS display so it will fit on the iPad. Tried it using an iPhone 6+ as the router and that also worked well. Tried it with an iPhone 5 and it works but takes a while to make a connection. All of this I've done in the house; haven't moved it out to the rig yet. I want to make sure that the phones aren't using much data when they are being used as a hotspot. I may end up just using a cheap router instead (not connected to anything but power). So far, so good.
jor

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Reply #14 – February 17, 2015, 05:41:16 pm

UPDATE TO UPDATE

I ended up using the VNC software and a suction cup iPad mount like Roger's (HtoH). I am running a Belkin router for WiFi (cheapest one I could find - 30 bucks). It is not connected to the internet so it just provides a local network. My little Acer boots Windows 8.1 and assigns itself the same IP address each time. The Acer auto loads both the VNC and VMSpc applications and attaches itself to the Belkin's network. The iPad also attaches to the same network. Just put the iPad in the nifty mount and we're off and running. Gotta say, I like this wireless setup much better than the laptop on the dash that I had before. Lots of different approaches to this goal; this one is cheap and easy.

Not a great photo. The display looks smaller in the photo than it does in the real world.
jor

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Reply #15 – February 17, 2015, 10:46:08 pm

Very nice Jor. Experiment with your screen layout, save each change so you can go back if you need to. Name them something like myscreenyyyymmdd.scr. Easy to keep track of them by time. Find a nice background, more interesting than white.

Roger

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iPad Display of VMS

January 21, 2015, 12:03:03 pm

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