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Re: Knoedler Air Ride

Reply #25
I thought I would update this thread with some new info regarding the mounting of the pilot and co-pilot seats, at least as it relates to our 99' Unicoach. There is steel framing beneath the chairs through which the mounting bolts of the base plates pass through. I verified this with a magnet underneath the floor above the front tires. On the passenger side, the framing runs cross ways for the rear two bolts, and the front two have longitudinal steel framing that originates at the rear cross ways framing that the two rear bolts pass through. On the driver side, the rear two are in longitudinal frame members, which may mirror the passenger side framing because the driver's chair is farther forward than the passenger's chair. I can't easily get at the front two driver's chair mounting bolts because the froward part of the "H" frame is in the way, but I surmise that the front two bolts are through the same longitudinal square tubes that the rear mounting bolts go through. When I do the front flooring and change out the seat pedestals I will post more detail. I am happy that the seats are mounted securely to steel framing because that fibers material above the tires tharotects the under side of the floor in the wheel well and the rigid foam insulation above it is definitely not structural! :D I have a picturincludede of magnets outlining the framing pattern as described above. The right of the image is towards the front of the coach, t protects the under side of the floor in the wheel well and the rigid foam insulation above it is definitely not structural! :D I have included a picture of magnets outlining the framing pattern as described above. The right of the image is towards the front of the coach, looking from above the curbside tire.
Don

I get to move the seat again.  After 10 hours of test driving, and the fact that Karen's feet didn't touch the ground, we decided another 3" forward would be good.  I will not drill through the metal floor pan again but instead modify the mounting plate further.  When I do that I can't use magnets on the underside since the whole floor is metal but perhaps on the top side it will tell me.  At a minimum though, I will be able to check the original holes for tubing again.

Otherwise, love this modification! So much more support and better ride. 

Re: Knoedler Air Ride

Reply #26
Don,

I was researching electric valves, third valves and whatnot.  Came across the pics of your wet bay.  Wow!  Well done sir!  I don't know what it says about me but I'm completely envious of your set up.

Joe

Re: Knoedler Air Ride

Reply #27
Well thanks Joe... after two years of rebuilding my basement/bulkhead area, I was staring at a blank canvas. Decided to make it my own rather than try to put it back the way it was. Part of it was to make everything easily accessible so I could avoid the sort of troubles I inherited.
Don
Don,
I was researching electric valves, third valves and whatnot.  Came across the pics of your wet bay.  Wow!  Well done sir!  I don't know what it says about me but I'm completely envious of your set up.

Joe
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
Freedom is NOT "just another word for nothing left to lose"... with apologies to Kris Kristofferson

Re: Knoedler Air Ride

Reply #28
Confirmed no tubing in existing seat holes.  But there is a sheet of 1/4 to 3/8" steel there and where the  new holes are.  However seat mount itself will revert back to original holes.  Was able to modify mount plate to make it work with 2" longer bolts. 

I am using the week old holes for mounting points for the four point harness.  I've shaped and cut two metal straps to go around a beam in the wheel wheel originating at forward seat bolts and ending with the shoulder harness.  I'm not sure what the slide behind me would do in sudden energy event (crash).  However, given the sheet steel combined with the strap around the beam, I feel confident this seat, me and the shoulder harness will darn sure be right there to stop it.  Or try to. 

Now I'm am going to have to do this three more times for Karen and the boys.  Pics tomorrow. 

 

Re: Knoedler Air Ride

Reply #29
Pics.  All I need now is a racing helmet... 

Important notes:

Watch harness belt lengths.  This lap belt is barely enough for my summer 30 inch waste.  Will make winter fattening process even more painful.

There is no reel on these.  When you are buckled in.  There you be.  Reaching dash controls is a challenge absent taking shoulder out from under the strap.

Kneodler engineers said the seat bar is not designed to hold shoulder straps, hence the floor mount. 

On to the next project...