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Tamboured door rattle

The DW and I love the tamboured doors on the cabinets and it's one of the reasons that we bought the 95 vintage. I think it's nearly the last year for them.
 Also like the 8.3 cummins, seems to have great reliability. But at idle she seems to rattle a couple of the tamboured doors.
 
 Has anyone come up with a solution for that. I thought about a small strip of felt in the channel but before I go there, thought I would ask. There is NO better resource for this kind of thing than the Foreforum.

 Just one more little thing towards perfect.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #1
We love out tambour cupboard doors too and I agree that '95 would be our preferred upgrade if we were ready to do that. I've never heard ours rattle but I think that I'd let the engine idle, and gently run a finger along the tambour doors to see where the rattle is worst. Then I'd probably put a dab of silicon... just a drop... in the most likely spot to see if that would damp the movement.

Felt would work, though... just seems to me like it might be a lot of work for only a few spots that might be creating the issue.

On the other hand, for me at least, turning off the hearing aids would work, too. But then I wouldn't be able to hear my DW's voice... oh, wait....  :D

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #2
I always carry a good supply of those little stick-on brown felt "dots".  Every time I identify a "rattle" source I'm on it like stink on a skunk (or some other such phrase).  I put 2 dots on the frame of each tambour door, at the point where the door contacts it when closed.  Haven't noticed any noise coming from them, but then (like Craig) my hearing isn't what it used to be...  Sometimes it's a blessing.

There is also a screw on the throttle control (on the engine) that you can use to adjust the idle speed.  I thought ours was too low when we got the coach, and I bumped it up slightly.  Made the coach feel a lot smoother at idle, especially when "in gear".

If you do mess with it, be careful not to set the idle speed too high, or the transmission will not move out of neutral.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #3
Possible your engine mounts are dryrotted and transmitting too much to the body? You may be addressing the symptoms, not the problem.
Matt
95 U300, 78k miles
Cat 3176 Jake Brake, HD4060.

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #4
Haven't figured out the quote thing yet.

 Craig.
  The silicone dots would go on the door strips? where I wonder if they might come off when the door coils up. Or on the channel.

 Chuck
  I like the felt dot idea. I'm getting a pack of those for wherever they need to go.

  I did get schooled on that engine idle thing when our coach wouldn't start on the trip home ( little piece of carpet under throttle pedal and the Alison wouldn't let it start).  Thought there was a specific idle rpm that it should be at. Have that checked ? Or overthinking it ?

 Matt
 So at 20 years and 150,000 the engine mounts are maybe due ? I'll ask the truck shop today when I pick it up ( rear brakes).
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #5
"Luck of the Irish", as the saying goes. In three coaches with those beauty tambours, NO RATTLES!  I've always used a dry lube on them and tried to keep our stuff from sliding against them.  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #6
Thought there was a specific idle rpm that it should be at. Have that checked ? Or overthinking it ?

When our M11 idles at the "proper" RPM (around 650 RPM) several things in the coach vibrate if we are stopped for a quick "driver's pit stop." In addition, even though the oil pressure is within spec limits (around 10 PSI) I prefer to have it somewhat higher. Therefore, I generally use the cruise control to bump the idle up to about 800 RPM during "pit stops" and pretty much everything seems to calm down--and I am much happier.
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #7
Crank up the idle a few rpm. Turn the idle adjustment screw. I cranked mine up a tiny bit as it was low and rattled everything. I think I went with 700-750rpm?!? but I can't remeber.
1998 U270 34'

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #8
Bottom of a wax candle shaped to fit the track
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #9
Bottom of a wax candle shaped to fit the track
That's a trick that I wouldn't have thought of.

Lots of options here to try. I know one of them is gonna work.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #10
Two screws on the top & two screws on the bottom and you can remove the entire tambour door as an assembly and then play with reducing the perceived rattle using whatever method you desire, including squeezing the track narrower or packing the track with whatever you think might work.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #11
Mine rattle too ,but only at extremely high Volumes of Molly Hatchett Flirting with Disaster or other such energizing tunes!!!!LOL
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

 

Re: Tamboured door rattle

Reply #12
Vertical slat horizontal sliding tambour doors wear differently that a vertical sliding door or one in a roll top desk with horizontal slats. Lubricating with wax will make the doors slide easier but likely won't reduce the rattling.  If youncan remove the doors and tracks as nighthawk suggests then a thin self stick layer of felt on one side or the other on the top and the the bottom.  Try that, if not enough then do the other side.

Adjusting the idle speed might work but firming up the door track fixes the actual problem.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN