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Re: Bulkhead failure years and Torque Test

Reply #25
Thanks! I don't think any post that can get everyone on the same page or at least thinking about it is a waste. Since we know we all have a potential problem, it would be good to have a master plan. Lots of good brains on the forum and ideas to go with them! Wish I could do 3D illustrations as that's the way I learn best. Never have been good reading manuals. Guess that's the ADHD. :D

Pierce

^^^^ what he said

Re: Bulkhead failure years and Torque Test

Reply #26
The most common source of water in the basement structure, the rear most part is the box beam of the rear bulkhead is LEAKS IN THE WET BAY. 

Another is around the drop down door for the sewer connection. 

Another is water migrating in around the heads of the Rolocks (they are serrated, so there is a "stand off" that allows water in. This one is easily preventable by masking off the heads of the Rolocks and spraying regular automotive undercoating on the angle beam in the area where the Rolock go through.

Because the basement floor is one solid layer of FG top and bottom with only penetrations to attach for forward and rear bulkhead and the vertical basement compartment transverse walls, in many cases, one does NOT see water or rust trails from the saturated sandwich.

Personal experience-- Several years ago Dianne and I drove from TX to central FL for an agreed on deal on a beautiful 2001 U270-- yes "subject to inspection".  Interior and exterior were beautiful-- it was one of the FMCA Convention show coaches that year. As I always do, I started on the roof and work my way to "under the belly".  All was fine, just some very minor things needed until I went under to inspect the rear bulkhead.  Because there were some plugs in the FG of the bulkhead area, someone had done a bulkhead repair (replacing Rolocks with through bolts).  I popped one of the plugs and got a bath of rusty water.  Stuck my finger in and removed a silver dollar sized rust flake from the bulkhead box beam.  I am quite certain that I could have taken a screwdriver and put it right through the box beam.  Cause of this extensive damage-- a $.05 washer where city water connected to the coach.  It had been leaking long enough that there was a mineral stalactite hanging from the connection. Got back in our car and drove back to Texas.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Bulkhead failure years and Torque Test

Reply #27

Personal experience-- Several years ago Dianne and I drove from TX to central FL for an agreed on deal on a beautiful 2001 U270-- yes "subject to inspection".  Interior and exterior were beautiful-- it was one of the FMCA Convention show coaches that year.

I popped one of the plugs and got a bath of rusty water.  Stuck my finger in and removed a silver dollar sized rust flake from the bulkhead box beam.  I am quite certain that I could have taken a screwdriver and put it right through the box beam.  Cause of this extensive damage-- a $.05 washer where city water connected to the coach.  It had been leaking long enough that there was a mineral stalactite hanging from the connection. Got back in our car and drove back to Texas.

Brett,

Being that was several years ago, and these days (really quite recently) there are now resources in Nac that can strip the basement and rebuild the base floor (looks like for somewhere in the $3-5K range), would you still be as definitive in your decision?

It is alarming to see the photos, but several members now have had the repair done.

Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

 

Re: Bulkhead failure years and Torque Test

Reply #28
Brett,

Being that was several years ago, and these days (really quite recently) there are now resources in Nac that can strip the basement and rebuild the base floor (looks like for somewhere in the $3-5K range), would you still be as definitive in your decision?

It is alarming to see the photos, but several members now have had the repair done.



Michelle,

Perhaps. But would have been a $10k deduction and it is a long way from central FL to the coach hospital. At the time we really did not have the time to "bring one back" which is why we looked at that new a coach (this was 4 1/2 years ago).
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020