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Reply #25
Hmmm - others smarter than I will chime in - but mixing valve comes to mind. Search the Forum for "mixing Valve" as a first start in this -

Roger Berke also has a forum dedicated to hydronic heaters in RV and boats - free to join, and LOTS of info there.

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if you are not handy, search out an approved Shot service center here - or post your current location and maybe a member can suggest someone.

http://aquahot.com/Service-Help/Service-Locations.aspx  (zoom in on map of US to see useable detail of Aquahot service facilities - note - all are not created equal - some work on the units all the time, some occasionally - all on this list have been to school however.)
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

Re: Yet another furnace/aqua hot question

Reply #26
That is either the tempering (mixing) valve adjustment or thermostat, because both thermostats are not likely to fail at the same time probably the tempering valve. Don't you have an Aqua Hot manual? If not get one, they can be printed online at several sites. Go to reply #10

Tim was quicker than me on the trigger

Aquahot Mixing Valve
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #27
Relays in the unit can and do fail  to turn the power to each circuits pump  on and off
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #28
I called Aqua Hot today. I was instructed to go under the coach and check some items. I believe that the mixing valve is the culprit. I can't turn the knob, but I would have to remove the blower unit to get to it anyway. I have called a repair company, but they are out of the rebuild kit ( of course ) and can't get to me until next Tuesday. I watched a really good video on You Tube, about thirty minutes long, which was very helpful in understanding how to replace the nozzle, set the electrodes and clean the combustion chamber. Aside from needing to be a contortionist, and having to get to a nut you can't even see, I am confident that I could do that type of maintenance myself. I just have to locate the filter next. Welcome to the world of MH repair and maintenance. I have so much to more to learn. Thanks again for your help.
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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Reply #29
If you want AHot parts, Roger Berke has a great site

RV Hydronic Heater Parts
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

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Reply #30
Glenn,
Without knowing the history of this coach I would add to your cleaning list to acid wash the complete water system with vinegar.  You may have calcium build up causing restrictions in your piping.  The acid wash may clean out your mixing valve that sounds like it is full of calcium deposits.  If the system has been around hard water a long time it may take 24 hrs. or more of soaking to get the system clean.

Our system takes about 2 1/2 gal of vinegar to fill our water system, both hot and cold side.

Pamela & Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #31
This is the valve you need.
 If you are a do it yourself person.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #32
Google, Watts tempering valve, you will find the complete valve and repair kits, the 1/2 INCH AND 3/4 INCH  take the same repair kit, I will not quote price's here as I have been called out about it before.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bill&Doris 97 U270 36'
University of Parris Island Class of 66
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Reply #33
Google, Watts tempering valve, you will find the complete valve and repair kits, the 1/2 INCH AND 3/4 INCH the 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch take the same repair kit, I will not quote price's here as I have been called out about it before.
I bought the complete valve and used the needed parts. See post above, it was cheaper than the parts themselves.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #34
also,  you do not need to replace the valve body - if you buy a valve, you can leave the valve body in place and just "rebuild" the valve from parts that you take out of the new valve, greatly simplifying the job
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

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Reply #35
I like the idea of acid wash. How do I go about doing it? Pamela and Mike, I need a little more info. Thanks!
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

Re: Yet another furnace/aqua hot question

Reply #36
Glenn,

What we do is:  We take an old RV water pump and use it to pump in the vinegar through the water fill port. We rigged up a short  hose on the suction side of the pump that will fit down in a vinegar jug.  On the discharge side we have a short hose that has a male garden hose fitting on the end so you can hook it up to the RV.  If you have a hose real you can hook up your pump discharge to that and fill the hose also.  Now you don't have to drain the H2O tank to fill your lines just don't open your fill valve.  Once you have this set up you will need to get power to run the pump, so we have a jumper wire that will reach the coach batteries. You could get fancy with a dedicated bucket/tank but they take up room to carry around. We use white vinegar from your preferred wholesale club.  Our coach takes about 2 1/2 gal.

OK once this is set up you will need a second person to help out.  While person 1 is outside watching the pump and vinegar jug person 2 will work the spigots inside.  When you turn on the pump person 2 will open 1 spigot (like the sink hot) when they smell vinegar close off the hot and open the cold side.  This first spigot will take the most vinegar cause you are fill all the piping. Now that the first spigot is full of vinegar move to the bathroom vanity, then the shower, then the throne.

Now that your system is full it is a waiting game.  We let ours set at least 24 hrs. if not longer (several times we have let is set for 3 or 4 days).  What this will do is dissolve the calcium build up that is in your system. Some people will argue that this may cause a leak. Where the truth of the matter is that you had a leak that needed to be addressed but it was stopped up with calcium.  We don't fire our A/H unit while the domestic water side is full of vinegar but some do to speed up the process.  Others feel it is better to rig up there pump so they can circulate the vinegar through the system and out a drain line into a catch bucket then recirculate the vinegar with the pump you have rigged up.  After you have let the vinegar do it's thing you need to flush the system with fresh water and clean out the crud that will be clogging up your kitchen and vanity spigot screen. We travel in areas that have real hard water so we do ours at least every other year even though we always use a water softener for all the water that goes on our coach.

You need to check for leaks after you pressure up your system and fix them if found.  Better to find it at this time rather than who knows when.

I think this is everything that we do to accomplish this task.

Pamela & Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #37
If you search for vinegar you'll find lots of input.  I use a hand pump kit sold in RV stores for adding winterizing.  It fits a gallon vinegar bottle just fine.
Regards,
Brett

'99 42' Foretravel Xtreme
'14 Brown Motorsports Stacker
'05 Chevy SSR
'02 BMW R1150R

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Reply #38
We had a tankless water heater for the house which needed to have vinegar run through it every year.  I bought a pump from Harbor Freight and put it into a bucket with 2 gal. of vinegar.  I used two short hoses (washing machine type) to connect to the heater and pump with return going back to the bucket.  Instead of letting it sit, the instructions called for circulating it for 45 minutes.  It didn't take long for the vinegar to turn black.  After I was finished, I dropped the pump into the pool and ran it for a few minutes in order to flush out all the vinegar.
My reason for bringing this up is that the following year when I pulled out the pump, I found that the impeller was completely rusted and useless.  I would be afraid to try this on the Aqua Hot.
2000 U320 mid entry  #5688
2006 Jeep Liberty


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Reply #39
There would be no pumps on the Aqua Hot getting the vinegar. Only coolant runs through the pumps. Is there another part of the Aqua Hot you are worried about?
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #40
It was probably the chlorine in the pool water rather than the vinegar that damaged the pump.

Vinegar has long been used to dissolve the build up of calcium and other minerals in coils that

are heated.

Carter-

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Reply #41
Where is the fresh water pump located on my 2001 U320 ?
It was easy to find in my travel trailer. The procedure to run vinegar through the system sounds a lot like running antifreeze for winterization. I could install a winterizing kit from Camco !
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

 

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Reply #42
1.  Where is the fresh water pump located on my 2001 U320 ?
 2.  The procedure to run vinegar through the system sounds a lot like running antifreeze for winterization.

Glenn,

1.  The pump should be hid in the compartment just in front of the right rear wheel.  Said another way last basement door in front of the passengers side rear wheels.  You will most likely have to dissemble the shelf unit that has it encapsulated to be able to get to it.

2.  Same basic thing.

Pamela & Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."