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Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #25
I'm  surprised at what must have been a very fast response by the firefighters  Usually, the RV is totally involved in the 6-8 minutes it take to arrive on scene.  The materials found in most RVs are highly flammable, due to light weight construction and adhesives used.  Great article.
2000 U320 mid entry  #5688
2006 Jeep Liberty


USMCR retired
SDFD retired
FEMA US&R TF8

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #26
I wonder if they were headed to Foretravel, Mtr. Homes of Texas, or Old Town, possibly
another service facility.

Hopefully they weren't headed from any of the above after having service performed.

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #27
So true.

Carter-

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Reply #28
Then where are you supposed to leave them?  You can't take your pet with you everywhere you go.  Most RV parks have rules against leaving your animals tied/penned up outside the coach when you are gone.  What do you suggest?
We understand that frustration.  We often leave Lacy in the RV if it is cool outside and we are just out for a meal.  If we are out all day we take her with us, but don't leave her in the car for very long, and never when it is hot.  This can be a real inconvenience.  A few years ago, we took turns going into the Kitty Hawk museum and when we were down at Key West, we missed out on all the galleries and museums.  We did find a great outdoor restaurant where they even brought her a bowl of water and doggie treat.  We are restricted by not being able to bring her everywhere, but that is the price we pay for her company.
2000 U320 mid entry  #5688
2006 Jeep Liberty


USMCR retired
SDFD retired
FEMA US&R TF8

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #29
TVASTVFD 1/11/2017 | East Texas Press

The glowing red hot provides a clue?
Every day is a gift
Bob and Pat
2000 36 U295 cummins 350hp
Coach has been sold thanks to MOT 11/2016

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #30
Possibly gasoline mixed into the diesel? I have seen some weird things happen with the right ratio of gas in a diesel engine. A tiny bit of gas and nothing happens. Too much and it stalls and wont run, but the right amount of gas where it can still run but messes up the burn and you end up with big issues. Just a guess, but seriously sad to see what most of us consider our home burning like that =(
95 U300SE

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #31
without any additional info I would guess a turbo oil seal allowing oil to get into exhaust ....
Every day is a gift
Bob and Pat
2000 36 U295 cummins 350hp
Coach has been sold thanks to MOT 11/2016

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #32
Lots of reasons for a RV fire. Diesel leak, turbo seal causing hot side overheating, broken turbo/exhaust pipe, sticking brake causing tire fire plus a few dozen other reasons. Diesel on a hot manifold/turbo is a lot more dangerous than gasoline. That's what cetane rating is about. With a diesel pusher, the operator may not notice the coach is on fire for miles. When he or she does, it's frequently too late. Heat sensors are good but extinguishers don't do much unless the coach is stopped. The coach movement coupled with the radiator fans quickly blow away any suppression agent.

From my view as a retired firefighter, this is a pretty typical RV fire. Tough to zero in without some clues from the owner while driving or maintenance done lately. Fires midship are easier as most start in the fridge.

In speaking to the owner of the U300 that burned while underway a couple of years ago, recent turbo maintenance and a mis-installed clamp on the hot side clamp turned out to be the cause. Engine room insulation is just waiting for an open flame.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #33
I wonder what was "not quite right"  and how long it took him to get to parking lot and open rear cover.  For the exhaust to be glowing I would think there was a problem somewhere causing  that. 
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #34
I had a turbo impeller explode on my old Mack truck. When it did, My pyrometer skyrocketed. So I said to the shop doing the new turbo install, Wouldn't it be interesting to have a remote camera in the engine bay to look at the turbo. He said you do not want to do that. As Turbos and exhaust manifolds under normal circumstances ROUTINELY are glowing red hot and you would just worry yourself sick. Of course he was correct.

On the other hand a pyrometer is a great thing to have for a turbo charged diesel engine. Lots of issues in a diesel engine will manifest itself as elevated exhaust temps.

The fact that this unfortunate FT owner just turned around & drove back to town instead of stopping to asses the issue. Is likely to have elevated his problem from a minor/serious one into an obviously catastrophic one.

Glad to hear that he and his buddy escaped with their lives. I also prey that he had insurance.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
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Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #35
One time I stopped my 1978 Saab Turbo and opened the hood. The turbocharger was cherry red.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
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FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #36
On the other hand a pyrometer is a great thing to have for a turbo charged diesel engine. Lots of issues in a diesel engine will manifest itself as elevated exhaust temps.

I had a turbo fry on the Airstream and, because of the pyrometer reading, pulled over right now! When we got this coach, I was perplexed that there was no boost/pyro gauges on board. The "experts" assured me, that as long as I did not hot rod the engine, there was no need. I don't agree, and next time I find a tech that knows his stuff, I'll have them install my favorite make of gauges.
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Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx

Reply #37
Way back in the mists of time I lived in London in Highgate.  There were several long steep hills there and watching some of the heavy trucks (Seddons) climbing flat out in low gear with their under front bumper exhausts glowing cherry red was quite a sight!

Things get hot back there folks so check that nothing is leaking or coming apart.

Keith
Keith, Joyce & Smokey the Australian Cattle Dog
1995 U320 SE Extreme 40' WTBI Build # 4780, with a Honda CR-V hopefully still following behind.
Motorcade # 17030
FMCA # F422159