Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #25 – January 13, 2017, 11:37:56 am I'm surprised at what must have been a very fast response by the firefighters Usually, the RV is totally involved in the 6-8 minutes it take to arrive on scene. The materials found in most RVs are highly flammable, due to light weight construction and adhesives used. Great article. Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #26 – January 13, 2017, 04:43:17 pm Quote from: Texas Guy – January 12, 2017, 02:53:25 pmI wonder if they were headed to Foretravel, Mtr. Homes of Texas, or Old Town, possiblyanother service facility.Hopefully they weren't headed from any of the above after having service performed. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #27 – January 13, 2017, 05:12:43 pm So true.Carter- Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #28 – January 13, 2017, 06:02:04 pm Quote from: Chuck & Jeannie – January 12, 2017, 11:15:36 amThen where are you supposed to leave them? You can't take your pet with you everywhere you go. Most RV parks have rules against leaving your animals tied/penned up outside the coach when you are gone. What do you suggest?We understand that frustration. We often leave Lacy in the RV if it is cool outside and we are just out for a meal. If we are out all day we take her with us, but don't leave her in the car for very long, and never when it is hot. This can be a real inconvenience. A few years ago, we took turns going into the Kitty Hawk museum and when we were down at Key West, we missed out on all the galleries and museums. We did find a great outdoor restaurant where they even brought her a bowl of water and doggie treat. We are restricted by not being able to bring her everywhere, but that is the price we pay for her company. Quote Selected 8 Likes
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #29 – January 18, 2017, 11:37:48 am TVASTVFD 1/11/2017 | East Texas PressThe glowing red hot provides a clue? Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #30 – January 18, 2017, 11:48:01 am Possibly gasoline mixed into the diesel? I have seen some weird things happen with the right ratio of gas in a diesel engine. A tiny bit of gas and nothing happens. Too much and it stalls and wont run, but the right amount of gas where it can still run but messes up the burn and you end up with big issues. Just a guess, but seriously sad to see what most of us consider our home burning like that =( Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #31 – January 18, 2017, 11:53:39 am without any additional info I would guess a turbo oil seal allowing oil to get into exhaust .... Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #32 – January 18, 2017, 12:25:53 pm Lots of reasons for a RV fire. Diesel leak, turbo seal causing hot side overheating, broken turbo/exhaust pipe, sticking brake causing tire fire plus a few dozen other reasons. Diesel on a hot manifold/turbo is a lot more dangerous than gasoline. That's what cetane rating is about. With a diesel pusher, the operator may not notice the coach is on fire for miles. When he or she does, it's frequently too late. Heat sensors are good but extinguishers don't do much unless the coach is stopped. The coach movement coupled with the radiator fans quickly blow away any suppression agent.From my view as a retired firefighter, this is a pretty typical RV fire. Tough to zero in without some clues from the owner while driving or maintenance done lately. Fires midship are easier as most start in the fridge. In speaking to the owner of the U300 that burned while underway a couple of years ago, recent turbo maintenance and a mis-installed clamp on the hot side clamp turned out to be the cause. Engine room insulation is just waiting for an open flame. Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #33 – January 18, 2017, 01:23:59 pm I wonder what was "not quite right" and how long it took him to get to parking lot and open rear cover. For the exhaust to be glowing I would think there was a problem somewhere causing that. Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #34 – January 18, 2017, 02:15:52 pm I had a turbo impeller explode on my old Mack truck. When it did, My pyrometer skyrocketed. So I said to the shop doing the new turbo install, Wouldn't it be interesting to have a remote camera in the engine bay to look at the turbo. He said you do not want to do that. As Turbos and exhaust manifolds under normal circumstances ROUTINELY are glowing red hot and you would just worry yourself sick. Of course he was correct. On the other hand a pyrometer is a great thing to have for a turbo charged diesel engine. Lots of issues in a diesel engine will manifest itself as elevated exhaust temps. The fact that this unfortunate FT owner just turned around & drove back to town instead of stopping to asses the issue. Is likely to have elevated his problem from a minor/serious one into an obviously catastrophic one. Glad to hear that he and his buddy escaped with their lives. I also prey that he had insurance. Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #35 – January 18, 2017, 02:46:54 pm One time I stopped my 1978 Saab Turbo and opened the hood. The turbocharger was cherry red. Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #36 – January 18, 2017, 03:04:01 pm Quote from: bigdog – January 18, 2017, 02:15:52 pm On the other hand a pyrometer is a great thing to have for a turbo charged diesel engine. Lots of issues in a diesel engine will manifest itself as elevated exhaust temps. I had a turbo fry on the Airstream and, because of the pyrometer reading, pulled over right now! When we got this coach, I was perplexed that there was no boost/pyro gauges on board. The "experts" assured me, that as long as I did not hot rod the engine, there was no need. I don't agree, and next time I find a tech that knows his stuff, I'll have them install my favorite make of gauges.ISSPRO.com - Quality Gauges, Tachometers, Speedometers and more! The wiring could be dicey, however! Quote Selected
Re: Coach Fire at Timpson, Tx Reply #37 – January 18, 2017, 03:22:48 pm Way back in the mists of time I lived in London in Highgate. There were several long steep hills there and watching some of the heavy trucks (Seddons) climbing flat out in low gear with their under front bumper exhausts glowing cherry red was quite a sight!Things get hot back there folks so check that nothing is leaking or coming apart.Keith Quote Selected