Tires for my Foretravel

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Tires for my Foretravel

September 28, 2017, 12:03:16 am

I need to replace the tires on my coach and am evaluating some of the choices available. I have discovered that the Toyo 295/75R-22.5 M-177 LRH is considerably less expensive than either the Michelin or the Goodyear equivalent tires at FMCA Advantage pricing. ($3,410 for 6 tires, mounted and balanced, with Washington state sales tax included.) The lower profile Toyo tire is wider by .4" but has the same diameter. I would appreciate comments from any members that have any personal or second hand experience with the Toyo tire? Any information will be welcome.
Gary

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Reply #1 – September 28, 2017, 12:11:34 am

I am happy with mine.

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Reply #2 – September 28, 2017, 12:14:58 am

skip the balancing as new tires are extremely closely balanced new.

Buy centrimatics and never have to rebalance your tires forever.

Michelins engineers on the phone mentioned all new big tires are tested on the same high tech machines,

Balance variations are rare according to him.

As you have a similar chassis coach as I do I would love to drive yours sometimes if we run across each other on the road.

Only valid comparison is to switch coaches for a test drive.

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Reply #3 – September 28, 2017, 12:22:16 am

Quote from: GLV – September 28, 2017, 12:03:16 am

I need to replace the tires on my coach and am evaluating some of the choices available. I have discovered that the Toyo 295/75R-22.5 M-177 LRH is considerably less expensive than either the Michelin or the Goodyear equivalent tires at FMCA Advantage pricing. ($3,410 for 6 tires, mounted and balanced, with Washington state sales tax included.) The lower profile Toyo tire is wider by .4" but has the same diameter. I would appreciate comments from any members that have any personal or second hand experience with the Toyo tire? Any information will be welcome.
Gary

Need a vacation trip? No sales tax in Oregon.

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Reply #4 – September 28, 2017, 12:39:42 am

I found the same as you regarding price and have not experienced any difference in quality. I installed new TOYO tires on my previous two Signatures. That is why I am riding on Toyo tires on my U295 installed three months ago. They are the TOYO M154 295/75R22.5 146/143L. Please note they offer this size in at least a couple different weight ratings, thus the M154 146/143L. In the Northwest, Les Schwab is the dealer I purchased from, excellent service, and reputation.

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Reply #5 – September 28, 2017, 07:53:10 am

Have 12K miles on my M177 G rated Toyos,this includes the trip to Alaska,the installer used the 1 lb. beads to balance,very happy.

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Reply #6 – September 28, 2017, 08:25:42 am

I recall several discussions about Toyo on the forum - search will turn them up (might want to change sort order to "most recent discussions" instead of the default "most relevant" to get the most current info

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Reply #7 – September 28, 2017, 08:46:05 am

The beads seem to work well and will get put in my new tires.

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Reply #8 – September 28, 2017, 08:56:13 am

My 177'swork just fine.

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Reply #9 – September 28, 2017, 11:13:21 am

Gary

I sold Michelin, Too and Yokohama tires (truck, RV and off the road) for a number of years (along with the US brands). I would not hesitate to buy and use the Toyo's, the sidewalls are likely stiffer than michelins so the ride maybe a bit harsher.

Search on the Forum search function "toyo", lots of prior comments on the Forum re these tires

Also, look into the FMCA and Prevost tire programs on Continental and Michelin for best prices on those products - the programs basically give you access to a negotiated national account price which is usually well below local market price.

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Reply #10 – September 28, 2017, 11:43:36 am

I know I'm kicking a dead horse, but the point must be made again. If I'd known about weighing the coach on all sides and having the front end aligned, my Toyos would have lasted FAR longer than they did!

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Reply #11 – September 28, 2017, 12:11:16 pm

My only experience is with Michelin, which I discussed in detail this last July. Had a failure at 5,000 miles on a one year old tire, causing nearly $7,000 damage to my rig. I had to involve my insurance company, since Michelin would not accept any responsibility. Progressive has been outstanding in their response and is trying to recover their expense from Michelin. I did get a partial refund on the cost of a new tire, which should help their case. I've attached a photo of the tire showing that one rib came off, while maintaining pressure.

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Reply #12 – September 28, 2017, 12:18:12 pm

As was mentioned Toyo's have stiffer sidewalls as part of their design.

That's so if flat the tire will not flop around causing loss of steering control.

Michelins went the other way and shred their thinner sidewall to allow the rim to settle on the tread area.

Smooth roads the ride differences are minor,

On so cal concrete block freeways the thin sidewall ride difference was needed for us.

Plus the "h" rating allowing the 10 psi lower tire pressure.

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Reply #13 – September 28, 2017, 08:28:26 pm

FWIW on my new Michelin X Energy tires they needed 4-5 oz of weight to balance, but they ride very smoothly and get better mileage than my former Michelins.

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Reply #14 – September 28, 2017, 09:48:26 pm

Phoenix Tire normally has brand new take off Michelins in stock at a huge discount. These are the exact tires Foretravel uses from the factory. I bought one of their brand new Michelins a couple of years ago and the date code showed it to be a year and a half old. It would be worthwhile to call them if you want to stick with the exact tires Foretravel always uses. I was told these tires were probably taken off new trucks at the time of sale because the buyers wanted a more aggressive tread pattern.

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Reply #15 – September 28, 2017, 10:44:57 pm

Toyo - Tire works fine and very good price.

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Reply #16 – September 28, 2017, 10:49:19 pm

I just put 6 new uniroyals on my u320. Only have about 500 miles on them, but they seem to ride smooth. Guy at the tire shop in nac told me they were made by Michelin.. 2450.00 for 6 with the fronts balanced

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Reply #17 – September 28, 2017, 11:04:11 pm

Quote from: hdff – September 28, 2017, 10:49:19 pm

I just put 6 new uniroyals on my u320. Only have about 500 miles on them, but they seem to ride smooth. Guy at the tire shop in nac told me they were made by Michelin.. 2450.00 for 6 with the fronts balanced

X2...Uniroyal RS20's with a bag of beads in all 6. 2000 miles no complaints

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Reply #18 – September 30, 2017, 09:02:30 pm

Didn't know anything about a bag of beads.... I'm new and no one at the tire shop mentioned it

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Reply #19 – September 30, 2017, 09:08:03 pm

16oz per tire seems to be the key. Air soft pellets work.

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Reply #20 – September 30, 2017, 10:46:26 pm

Quote from: GLV – September 28, 2017, 12:03:16 am

I need to replace the tires on my coach and am evaluating some of the choices available. I have discovered that the Toyo 295/75R-22.5 M-177 LRH is considerably less expensive than either the Michelin or the Goodyear equivalent tires at FMCA Advantage pricing. ($3,410 for 6 tires, mounted and balanced, with Washington state sales tax included.) The lower profile Toyo tire is wider by .4" but has the same diameter. I would appreciate comments from any members that have any personal or second hand experience with the Toyo tire? Any information will be welcome.
Gary

Come on over to Walla Walla. We are 10 minutes from the Oregon border town of Milton-Freewater. Which has a Les Schwab shop. Schwab sells Toyos.

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Reply #21 – September 30, 2017, 11:45:28 pm

No sales tax in Oregon

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Reply #22 – October 01, 2017, 12:00:09 am

I applaud the smart buyers who have managed to get the same quality on their coaches tires and batteries as Foretravel fit these with new but for a much lower price.

Although it seems that that was not the idea? Just finding a cheaper item that bolts on or drops in is not my preference.

Interested in what FOT does for tires and batteries? No one has ever mentioned it now that I think about it?

What do they say or Do?

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Reply #23 – October 01, 2017, 11:04:10 pm

I just picked up some Toyo 155s 295/75-22.5 from Les Schwab in Renton Washington for $3100 mounted and 2 fronts balanced.

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