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1987 Foretravel Grand Villa

Hello All! Looking at a 1987 FT GV Cat engine with Allison transmission 186000 miles on her. Exterior is in pretty good shape, spoke with the gentleman who has it up for sale and he said he would be glad to show me the MH anytime. He is asking $10,000.00 for this rig. I read that these older FT GVs are pretty well built. Any thoughts or advice as to what I should be looking for when I go check it out? Thanks in advance!

Mike B :help:

Re: 1987 Foretravel Grand Villa

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Is this the one in Georgia?
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

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Reply #2 –
They are well built, no coach manuals no deal, there are many factors that play into value. Search, search, and then search again. Power train parts are commercial grade and expensive. Previous maintenance history priceless. That being said you can easily sink another 4k to 6k in belts, hoses, tires, filters, fluid changes, batteries, suspension air bags, etc, and that's if you can DIY if the previous owner deferred maintenance. You are talking about a building on wheels with a drivetrain, with a water and sewer system, a very complex electrical system with a generator. HVAC systems. This forum is invaluable, informative, and a resource you will not find anywhere else. Learning curve is steep but with many helpful members who have been there done that, help. Becoming self reliant will forever pay big dividends in your journey thru life.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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 Pretty much the same as my 88.  10K is fair if it runs ,shifts  and stops.  Tires and fluids are easy to cost out.    Look for rust  onthe outriggers that hold the body, muffler and the normal  underchassis stuff. 
 The Cat should light right off  and have  25-30# pressure at warm idle and more running.  Look for leaks and recent filters . The Allison  is  late shifting into 4th gear usually  but should lock  up solid once there.  Smell the fluid , burnt and brownish is not good.   
 Check the Racor for water. 
 Air bags look OK or are they scuffed  badly?
 Is there grease hanging out from the fittings or is it dry?  grease is a sign of owner love. IMHO
 Is the steering tight?
 Air pressure stay up over the 10 min mark? etc. 
 Mine has  slight water damage under the windows, the dash AC is weak.  But overall the  Oshkosh  chassis is impressive and the build quality is good.  Before I bought mine I looked hard for  real faults and found that all of the owners loved them . The interior design is the weakest point, IMHo and that is subjective.
 You can hide a lot of cash inside one of these .  If you can do  most of the work it wont be too bad.   
 Good luck. MM

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Quote from: stump –
Is this the one in Georgia?

Ohio. The gentleman just advertised it locally. Says he has years and years of maintenance records. The PO before him owns a trucking company and maintained it personally! Looking forward to seeing the inside and giving it a good look-see!

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Welcome to our forum. Hope you will soon join us as an owner of a fine, vintage, Foretravel.
The points that Phred and Mike (Protech) made may seem scary and complex, but really are just SOP when checking out ANY older coach. Of course, if you check this coach out, you'll be doing a road test. That weird rumbly shift into 4th gear is normal. My coach is an '86, but virtually the same as an '87. I have a Cat 3208T and will recommend that during your test drive, you press the machine to kick the turbocharger in. I didn't realize that mine even HAD a turbo until I got it home. I had driven it full out from east Texas to wesrern Washington in three days. That boost would have been a great help over the three mountain ranges along the way. Everything else about the Foretravel was, and is, tremendous. Make sure that you treat the superb woodwork as it should be treated.
  If upgrades haven't been made, you'll want to replace TVs with efficient flat-panels and the incandescent bulbs and florescent tubes with LEDs.. The investment will be offset by less future spending on house batteries and burnt out bulbs. Thankfully, FTs are so well built, that maintenance is cheap and easy. Ten grand is a very reasonable price if the hotel-on-wheels was solid when you bought it. Most are. Foretravel owners tend to care for their coaches. This forum is the best way to stay on top of every topic you can think of (regarding your coach). And the people here are soon to become a second family. What a great resource.
Route 66_End to End....someday

  1986 36' Grand Villa
    2015 Jeep Patriot
        K1SLD Steve
        K9NIK Nikki

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When you find the original owners name let me know,  just wondering who it was.

Rear radiator is a 250.  Side radiator is a 300
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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We got our '89 for 13. This was the first year of tbe unihomes and as such has cavernous basement storage among other things. The big ticket fixes over the last few years have been tires of course, a radiator recore, and roof re-seal. In other words it was in fantastic shape. Foretravel and Bluebird and Newell are the only makes I would look for when shoppig for a 20+ year old RV.  I saw a 1989 Some Other Brand for sale here and the roof was... well it was rotted out. This forum weighs very, very heavily in favor of adopting a FT...
Jay
1989 U280 SE, 36', 3208T Cat, build 3292

Re: 1987 Foretravel Grand Villa

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Quote from: Protech Racing –
Pretty much the same as my 88.  10K is fair if it runs ,shifts  and stops.  Tires and fluids are easy to cost out.    Look for rust  onthe outriggers that hold the body, muffler and the normal  underchassis stuff. 
 The Cat should light right off  and have  25
-
30# pressure at warm idle and more running.  Look for leaks and recent filters . The Allison  is  late shifting into 4th gear usually  but should lock  up solid once there.  Smell the fluid , burnt and brownish is not good.   
 Check the Racor for water. 
 Air bags look OK or are they scuffed  badly?
 Is there grease hanging out from the fittings or is it dry?  grease is a sign of owner love. IMHO
 Is the steering tight?
 Air pressure stay up over the 10 min mark? etc. 
 Mine has  slight water damage under the windows, the dash AC is weak.  But overall the  Oshkosh  chassis is impressive and the build quality is good.  Before I bought mine I looked hard for  real faults and found that all of the owners loved them . The interior design is the weakest point, IMHo and that is subjective.
 You can hide a lot of cash inside one of these .  If you can do  most of the work it wont be too bad.   
 Good luck. MM

Can you elaborate on the interior design being the weakest point?

Thanks! Mike

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   Like you Mike I'm confused about the interior design fault, the only thing I have an issue with is the step down from the shower. Both myself and Lou make sure we concentrate when exiting the shower combined with the height is the lack of a firm hand hold ....so we raized the floor ! and we are contemplating raising the bedroom floor for the same reason.
  What I'd really like to know is what does IMHO mean ?
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

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In My Humble Opinion IMHO
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

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   Thanks Tim these are the things I need to know !
Mick
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

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Can't converse with the natives if you don't speak the language.  I feel older every day...

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1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Was on the beamalarm website today, and it showed an 88 unihome 280 listed with the 3208.  I would be game for one of those, and have lots of bucks left over for upgrades. KISS principal. With good torque and mileage.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

Re: 1987 Foretravel Grand Villa

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I purchased this Grand Villa!  It's got some normal issues with age and I did have to have radiator work but the engine is strong.

And even with the radiator cost I'm still under 10k.  I think it was a good buy.
The Roaming Pickers
Russ, Carol, and our dog Chloe
1987 40' Grand Villa
ORED
 

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Quote from: Roaming pickers –
I purchased this Grand Villa!
Congratulations!  Start a new thread, tell us about yourselves and your new ride.  We always enjoy hearing from new owners, and answering all the inevitable questions.  Don't be shy about asking - every member here went through the same process of trying to figure out how a Foretravel works.  The good news is, you picked a great classic coach!

And post lots of photos - we LIKE photos.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"